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@Gerry Nelson; great fitting suit. gaddamn you have massif hands!!

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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

Well it sounded like he had some basics covered with mid greys and blues (do you have a navy?). If not then sure get some more versatile basics:)
(yes)
Given he has

Mid grey
Mid grey pin
Navy (Possibly a shade light to be called navy but I'll give it the benifit of the doubt)
Black*

*Which hes mentioned he'd rather not wear.

I'd suggest that in this case basics would be the better option than 2 patterned/ textured suits in 4(5).

Seeing the Navy/Blue suit only confirmed my choice.


Even with more suits than this I'd strongly consider seasonality^ before I went off onto say checks (of any type).


^Obviously you'll get some texture here.
post #16458 of 51908
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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

Well it sounded like he had some basics covered with mid greys and blues (do you have a navy?). If not then sure get some more versatile basics:)

 

I've got a badly fitting navy suit which I've retired so for all intents and purposes, the answer is no smile.gif

 

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Originally Posted by sliq View Post

@Gerry Nelson; great fitting suit. gaddamn you have massif hands!!

 

Thanks! Yes, I've got big hands - really helped when I was playing the piano!

 

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Originally Posted by Plestor View Post


(yes)
Given he has
Mid grey
Mid grey pin
Navy (Possibly a shade light to be called navy but I'll give it the benifit of the doubt)
Black*
*Which hes mentioned he'd rather not wear.
I'd suggest that in this case basics would be the better option than 2 patterned/ textured suits in 4(5).
Seeing the Navy/Blue suit only confirmed my choice.
Even with more suits than this I'd strongly consider seasonality^ before I went off onto say checks (of any type).
^Obviously you'll get some texture here.

 

My preference is for a patterned odd jacket rather than a patterned suit. Anyway, based on its intended use, my gut feel is to go for a solid dark colour and add patterns in via the shirt/tie/handkerchief.

post #16459 of 51908
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

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Originally Posted by Romp View Post

Well it sounded like he had some basics covered with mid greys and blues (do you have a navy?). If not then sure get some more versatile basics:)

I've got a badly fitting navy suit which I've retired so for all intents and purposes, the answer is no smile.gif
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Originally Posted by sliq View Post

@Gerry Nelson; great fitting suit. gaddamn you have massif hands!!

Thanks! Yes, I've got big hands - really helped when I was playing the piano!
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Originally Posted by Plestor View Post

(yes)

Given he has

Mid grey

Mid grey pin

Navy (Possibly a shade light to be called navy but I'll give it the benifit of the doubt)

Black*

*Which hes mentioned he'd rather not wear.

I'd suggest that in this case basics would be the better option than 2 patterned/ textured suits in 4(5).

Seeing the Navy/Blue suit only confirmed my choice.

Even with more suits than this I'd strongly consider seasonality^ before I went off onto say checks (of any type).

^Obviously you'll get some texture here.

My preference is for a patterned odd jacket rather than a patterned suit. Anyway, based on its intended use, my gut feel is to go for a solid dark colour and add patterns in via the shirt/tie/handkerchief.
+1 (with the edit, I don't even own a patterned shirt)
Edited by Plestor - 8/12/12 at 7:24am
post #16460 of 51908
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Originally Posted by fxh View Post

Those Beatles pics are more than 50 years old*.
I think it still looks good - even if you wouldn't wear it now.
Narrow pants, high rise, narrow ties, highwater (ish) pants, short ish jackets - current.
Main thing that makes it look NOT 2012 is the Chelsea boots and hard 3 or 4 button jackets and almost exclusively white shirts..
*Poetic license - they are from '64/'65

I have absolutely no idea why this forum hates narrow ties though. Is it because there is an over-representation of aging overweight people on the MC?
post #16461 of 51908
That's odd, in my visits here my observations would be thate SF hates wider ties.
post #16462 of 51908
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Originally Posted by fxh View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Those Beatles pics are more than 50 years old*.
I think it still looks good - even if you wouldn't wear it now.
Narrow pants, high rise, narrow ties, highwater (ish) pants, short ish jackets - current.
Main thing that makes it look NOT 2012 is the Chelsea boots Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
and hard 3 or 4 button jackets and almost exclusively white shirts..
*Poetic license - they are from '64/'65

lol wut.

do you mean the atrocious doublemonks are todays chelseas? no?
post #16463 of 51908
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Originally Posted by blahman View Post

I have absolutely no idea why this forum hates narrow ties though. Is it because there is an over-representation of aging overweight people on the MC?

I'd say that thinner ties, and I mean under 7cm's are interpreted as fashion items and 8-9cm is more classic, hence why they aren't that popular. I wore some thinner ones around 6cm about 3-4 years ago, probably when I still read GQ rather than Monocle (or style forum)! There is also the proportion argument of having reasonably slimmer lapels if you are wearing thinner ties too and most thin lapeled suits are fairly fashion forward too, and not favoured on here.
post #16464 of 51908
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Originally Posted by blahman View Post

I have absolutely no idea why this forum hates narrow ties

It's because they look bad
post #16465 of 51908
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Originally Posted by Plestor View Post


+1 (with the edit, I don't even own a patterned shirt)

Agreed! I have one or two that I bought when I didn't know my preferences any better and they're still used but not as much as the plain blue and plain white shirts I have.

post #16466 of 51908

i think, each to his own. i have a mix of skinny through to classic sizes. otherwise we'd be drones if we all wore 8-9cm ties

post #16467 of 51908
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

I'm thinking about a charcoal/dark grey suit similar to the colour of one on the left for my next PJ commission. Right now I have the following suits - blue, mid-grey, mid-grey pinstripe, black. The latter only gets used for funerals now so thankfully - worn very little (and I hope it bloody well stays that way!). The upcoming weddings I'm attending have made me realise that aside from the black one, I don't actually own any dark suits.

I've had the blue suit for awhile now and it's gotten a fair bit of use as a suit as well as separately. It perfectly fills a gap in my wardrobe and feels extremely comfortable. In fact, the only downside to this suit is that I like it so much that I may be in danger of wearing it too much. I even want to wear the thing on weekends. I'd even be perfectly happy wearing it around the house to be honest - that's how comfortable it is. It will be exciting if I can get a similar result but in a darker grey. Thinking back, to the process, what worked really well was to think about exactly what I wanted in a suit, let Tom know and trust that he'd deliver the goods. I'm pleased to say that he delivered on all counts.

I'd even go so far as to say that the blue PJ is the best suit I've ever owned.

There's nothing that I would change about the fit for the next one except maybe to try peak lapels this time.

Thoughts?

I think you're on the right track.

I'd just make sure to keep it quite CBD, as dark gray is very much a sober CBD shade. This means a welted breast pocket and flapped and welted hip pockets with dark horn buttons; not patch pockets, lighter horn buttons, or any other rusticating elements. I'd also go with a hardier Dugdale Bros worsted farbric and not an LP wool twill. Trust me, it sounds boring, but really it makes for a very versatile suit.

I'd do side tabs with the pants; no belt loops. As always, a pair of spare pants is recommended!
post #16468 of 51908
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Originally Posted by blahman View Post

I have absolutely no idea why this forum hates narrow ties though. Is it because there is an over-representation of aging overweight people on the MC?

From personal experience, I believe that the width of your tie (and for that matter, the width of your lapels) should correlate to the width of your shoulders.

The skinniest I would go is 6-6.5 cm IF we're talking knit ties. For all other ties, 7 cm is acceptable, but my ideal width is between 8-9cm.

Proportion is key, and all decisions concerning length and width should be slaved to it.
post #16469 of 51908
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post


I think you're on the right track.
I'd just make sure to keep it quite CBD, as dark gray is very much a sober CBD shade. This means a welted breast pocket and flapped and welted hip pockets with dark horn buttons; not patch pockets, lighter horn buttons, or any other rusticating elements. I'd also go with a hardier Dugdale Bros worsted farbric and not an LP wool twill. Trust me, it sounds boring, but really it makes for a very versatile suit.
I'd do side tabs with the pants; no belt loops. As always, a pair of spare pants is recommended!

 

Thanks, CEP. The trousers for the PJ suit have side tabs, brace buttons and no belt loops. After wearing this for awhile, I really do think it's the way to go.

 

Thanks for the thoughts - what you write makes a lot of sense and it's kind of what I had in mind but without the details. I think Lennier and CHECKstar have similar suits as well and that may have well been the reason my thoughts were heading that way.

 

In any case, I know exactly where I will be using this suit and that's guiding me in the direction you mentioned.

post #16470 of 51908
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post

From personal experience, I believe that the width of your tie (and for that matter, the width of your lapels) should correlate to the width of your shoulders.
The skinniest I would go is 6-6.5 cm IF we're talking knit ties. For all other ties, 7 cm is acceptable, but my ideal width is between 8-9cm.
Proportion is key, and all decisions concerning length and width should be slaved to it.

Also depends on width at or around the knot and all the way down.

Too skinny up top looks wrong no matter what the width at tip.

6cm is ok if its straight all the way up/down - 6 cm at bottom and thinner up top looks unbalanced.

If you are wearing a jacket mostly buttoned up then the bottom width doesn't matter much at all - no one will see it.

If not wearing a jacket in summer then a 6.5 - 7 cm almost straight all the way down knit tie is preferable.

I'm embarrassed to admit this but a few weeks ago I counted my ties, and re-reorganised and tossed a few, they range from 9cm to 6cm.

I'm even more embarrassed to admit that the other day, despite my best educational efforts and despite a generally good record, the Ms mused aloud that she thought very thin black leather ties looked ok.
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