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post #16441 of 31972
8/11/12 at 5:04pm

A suit the colour of John Lennon? That would make it pink - just imagine! smile.gif

 

I understand what you're saying CHECKstar and I agree. Based on what he's suggested for me and delivered, I'm happy to go with Tom's judgement on this and I would prefer an objective eye. Tom made a good point - what I really need is a dark suit for weddings and other formal occasions. It may turn out to be a dark grey, a dark blue or even something else I hadn't even thought of but I guess the bottom line is the objective. I'm happy to to be guided on on the 'how' of it all.

 

This is where the excitement of colaboration comes in.


Edited by Gerry Nelson - 8/11/12 at 6:19pm
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post #16442 of 31972
8/11/12 at 5:26pm
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I'm thinking about a charcoal/dark grey suit similar to the colour of one on the left for my next PJ commission. Right now I have the following suits - blue, mid-grey, mid-grey pinstripe, black. The latter only gets used for funerals now so thankfully - worn very little (and I hope it bloody well stays that way!). The upcoming weddings I'm attending have made me realise that aside from the black one, I don't actually own any dark suits.

I've had the blue suit for awhile now and it's gotten a fair bit of use as a suit as well as separately. It perfectly fills a gap in my wardrobe and feels extremely comfortable. In fact, the only downside to this suit is that I like it so much that I may be in danger of wearing it too much. I even want to wear the thing on weekends. I'd even be perfectly happy wearing it around the house to be honest - that's how comfortable it is. It will be exciting if I can get a similar result but in a darker grey. Thinking back, to the process, what worked really well was to think about exactly what I wanted in a suit, let Tom know and trust that he'd deliver the goods. I'm pleased to say that he delivered on all counts.

I'd even go so far as to say that the blue PJ is the best suit I've ever owned.

There's nothing that I would change about the fit for the next one except maybe to try peak lapels this time.

Thoughts?

My only thoughts would be that a plain charcoal is perhaps a bit too safe. The great thing about a MTM suit is that there is so much variety and choice of fabric that it seems almost a shame to not get something a little different (although not clown like... Im talking subtle texture or pattern here )
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My next suit i saw the fabric i want. Its navy with a very thin window pane.. Its one thread of brown and one of silver. Its really subtle but just a tad removed from a plain navy (which i do own too).

Similarly thereis a charcoal with a lighter colour window pane that looked awesome wink.gif

Romp's thinking is a trap. You'll now have two suits you wear above others, do you really want one of them to stick out* and hence not get to wear it much?

As an aside, windowpane always sticks out as a non conservative option.

*I've done this in the past and its really as bad as it sounds.

Edit. Taliors' stylists^ can lead you down a bit of a wild road, be careful there too.

^Be it the measurer (e.x. MTM), a dedicated stylist (e.x. Rubinacci), or a cutter.
Edited by Plestor - 8/11/12 at 6:53pm
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post #16443 of 31972
8/11/12 at 6:20pm

Interesting discussion. With the first suit, I wanted something to replace the ill fitting navy suit I had and with Tom's recommendations on material and details, this was the result (which I am very happy with):

 

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The suit is darker than it appears in the photo and the material has some texture to it which makes it interesting to my eye so this is my version of the standard navy suit. It will be something I can wear for work, weddings and other formal occasions. The material will be plain coloured but textured and the details like the cut, shoulders, pockets and lapels will the little things that make it stand out. I'm not bothered about the handstitching and other extra details like that.

 

I want the next one to fill in the role of a dark conservative suit. Plestor, I'll be wearing this one as much as I wear my mid grey suit - the blue one will will still get worn the most simply because I can wear the jacket and trousers separately or together. I have a few odd jackets that work well with the blue trousers and the blue jacket looks good with my grey wool and flannel trousers. I doubt I'd be able to (or want to do that with this commission.

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post #16444 of 31972
8/11/12 at 6:32pm
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That'll be John Lennon there Gerry...
Actually on a more serious tone, I am in a similar situation as you. My last PJ commission I went in with the view to get either a navy pinstripe or charchoal grey. Tom steered me away fro. The charcoal subtly suggesting that with my complexions dark charcoal will make me look washed out. So ended up with the navy pinstripe. A part of me thinks that I need a dark grey suit, but then Tom has said there is nothing wrong with various types of blue.

The Russian Communist? I though he had a goatee.


I'm starting to think that everyone here has a blogger blue suit in their wardrobe.
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post #16445 of 31972
8/11/12 at 7:19pm
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Interesting discussion. With the first suit, I wanted something to replace the ill fitting navy suit I had and with Tom's recommendations on material and details, this was the result (which I am very happy with): Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


The suit is darker than it appears in the photo and the material has some texture to it which makes it interesting to my eye so this is my version of the standard navy suit. It will be something I can wear for work, weddings and other formal occasions. The material will be plain coloured but textured and the details like the cut, shoulders, pockets and lapels will the little things that make it stand out. I'm not bothered about the handstitching and other extra details like that.

I want the next one to fill in the role of a dark conservative suit. Plestor, I'll be wearing this one as much as I wear my mid grey suit - the blue one will will still get worn the most simply because I can wear the jacket and trousers separately or together. I have a few odd jackets that work well with the blue trousers and the blue jacket looks good with my grey wool and flannel trousers. I doubt I'd be able to (or want to do that with this commission.
Your other suit is 3 r 2.5 yes? I rather like it too, somewhat less CBD then i would have gone, but that allows you to pull it apart into seprates more... Intresting re: odd jackets and blue trousers -- I *really* don't like blue trousers.

I suppose I projected and misread you but in my case I find I wear my more favoured suits more* as a whole suit.

*Or I wish I could in the case of less conservative options.

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Blahman, if the 520 fresco counts then probabaly. See below (2nd, right coloumn) for a reasonably acurate colouration as the HFW pictures are terrible.

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post #16446 of 31972
8/11/12 at 7:32pm
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Im keen on a 7 fold. Any sneak peek shots?

I've posted the plum grenadine and the caramel twill that are coming on my affiliate thread and tumblr, but apart from this I've only got swatches here, which I'm not all that keen on photographing, just because I don't think they will do them justice.

But apart from those we have maroon grenadine, a burnt orange woven, navy striped repp, red striped repp, a champagne woven stripe, a light silver floral woven (awesome wedding tie), brown pin dot and a brown printed silk. Don't worry I'll be taking photos the second they arrive!
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post #16447 of 31972
8/11/12 at 7:35pm
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Your other suit is 3 r 2.5 yes? I rather like it too, somewhat less CBD then i would have gone, but that allows you to pull it apart into seprates more... Intresting re: odd jackets and blue trousers -- I *really* don't like blue trousers.

 

Yep, it's 3 r 2.5. I'm lucky in that I work in a place that's not conservative so that allows me quite a bit of leeway. I've got a grey Donegal tweed jacket that I think goes better with blue trousers than grey. Also, this one works with the blue trousers as well:

 

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Grey trousers are more versatile with odd jackets but blue does work in some cases and I like having that option.

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post #16448 of 31972
8/11/12 at 9:10pm
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

Interesting discussion. With the first suit, I wanted something to replace the ill fitting navy suit I had and with Tom's recommendations on material and details, this was the result (which I am very happy with):

 

700

 

 

The suit is darker than it appears in the photo and the material has some texture to it which makes it interesting to my eye so this is my version of the standard navy suit. It will be something I can wear for work, weddings and other formal occasions. The material will be plain coloured but textured and the details like the cut, shoulders, pockets and lapels will the little things that make it stand out. I'm not bothered about the handstitching and other extra details like that.

 

I want the next one to fill in the role of a dark conservative suit. Plestor, I'll be wearing this one as much as I wear my mid grey suit - the blue one will will still get worn the most simply because I can wear the jacket and trousers separately or together. I have a few odd jackets that work well with the blue trousers and the blue jacket looks good with my grey wool and flannel trousers. I doubt I'd be able to (or want to do that with this commission.

Hi - very nice. Is this with no shoulder pad and shirt shoulder? 

 

I have one (my only PJohnson's) made in Ariston Denim wool with no shoulder pads and shirt shoulder. Still my best fitting suit ever. 

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post #16449 of 31972
8/11/12 at 9:29pm

Thanks! This is with no shoulder pad. I'm not sure what you mean by shirt shoulders but it is definitely my best fitting suit (as it should be).


Edited by Gerry Nelson - 8/11/12 at 10:21pm
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post #16450 of 31972
8/11/12 at 10:10pm
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Thanks! This is with no shoulder pad. I'm not sure what you mean by shirt shoulders but it is definitely my bets fitting suit (as it should be).

Thanks for the reply. Your suit really looks great.

I am by no means an expert, and i know someone else will correct me, but shirt shoulder refers to the method that the sleeve is attached to the shoulder on your jacket. In traditional tailoring the shoulder is typically Pressed "open" (or closed, in the case of a rope shoulder), creating quite a formal and structured look. The shirt shoulder jacket essentially uses the same technique as that in shit making where the sleeve is folded and stitched underneath the shoulder seam allowance - just like your shirt. The result is a very natural shoulder that rolls off your shoulder bone.

You might also note the pleating in your shoulder - that is the result of a liberate larger sleeveless being fitted into a smaller Armscye (armhole) - resulting in the puckers and the gathers.

Anyway - just a bit of mindless rambling to go with your great fit pic smile.gif.
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post #16451 of 31972
8/11/12 at 10:42pm
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Interesting discussion. With the first suit, I wanted something to replace the ill fitting navy suit I had and with Tom's recommendations on material and details, this was the result (which I am very happy with):




The suit is darker than it appears in the photo and the material has some texture to it which makes it interesting to my eye so this is my version of the standard navy suit. It will be something I can wear for work, weddings and other formal occasions. The material will be plain coloured but textured and the details like the cut, shoulders, pockets and lapels will the little things that make it stand out. I'm not bothered about the handstitching and other extra details like that.

I want the next one to fill in the role of a dark conservative suit. Plestor, I'll be wearing this one as much as I wear my mid grey suit - the blue one will will still get worn the most simply because I can wear the jacket and trousers separately or together. I have a few odd jackets that work well with the blue trousers and the blue jacket looks good with my grey wool and flannel trousers. I doubt I'd be able to (or want to do that with this commission.

Really nice suit! maybe it's just the shoes but the bottom half looks a little weird to me. Makes you look quite top heavy with chicken legs and mammoth feet. Is probably the angle of the photo though. Really like the colour though. It's boss.
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post #16452 of 31972
8/11/12 at 11:01pm
Here are some shots of the G&H sports coat and a sibling...










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post #16453 of 31972
8/11/12 at 11:18pm
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Really nice suit! maybe it's just the shoes but the bottom half looks a little weird to me. Makes you look quite top heavy with chicken legs and mammoth feet. Is probably the angle of the photo though. Really like the colour though. It's boss.

 

Thanks! I'll take some photos again and look at it keeping that in mind. I do need to add some leg mass on though ...

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post #16454 of 31972
8/12/12 at 12:14am
^ Gotta go to the gym and hit those squats and SL Deadlifts.
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post #16455 of 31972
8/12/12 at 1:00am
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Romp's thinking is a trap. You'll now have two suits you wear above others, do you really want one of them to stick out* and hence not get to wear it much?
As an aside, windowpane always sticks out as a non conservative option.
*I've done this in the past and its really as bad as it sounds.
Edit. Taliors' stylists^ can lead you down a bit of a wild road, be careful there too.
^Be it the measurer (e.x. MTM), a dedicated stylist (e.x. Rubinacci), or a cutter.

Well it sounded like he had some basics covered with mid greys and blues (do you have a navy?). If not then sure get some more versatile basics:)

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