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post #11026 of 52281
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Originally Posted by Windowpane1967 View Post



Doug - bite the bullet and buy Eton.  These shirts are expensive but absolutely worth it.  I send mine to the dry cleaner each week and they come back time and time again without any problem.  They are good shirts and if you buy 2 a year you will have enough to last you many years.

Will do - can you direct me to a retailer ?

I assume they are cotton ? Are they soft or scratchy/wrinkly feeling ?

Can they be ironed at home via a steam iron ? My Hilditch and Key Shirts cannot, they have to be dry-cleaned.

thanks
post #11027 of 52281
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Originally Posted by bhall41 View Post

Theknottery only sells coloured laces. I want black laces for these shoes. Any suggestions where to get some nice ones?

Why have I never heard of that store? I'm really digging that Lonshoreman tie.
post #11028 of 52281
Just wanted to mention I bought a knit tie from The Knottery a while back and the quality is poor--I don't wear it. That's not to say their other products aren't good though, and they are certainly cheap.
post #11029 of 52281
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Originally Posted by Windowpane1967 View Post

A revitalised DJs is far beyond a sustainable business model.  Loss of credibility and reputation is like virginity. 

For what its worth my thoughts are that the problems being experienced by the likes of DJs and other now specifically hinges on transparency and credibility.  Never before have consumers had the breadth of information available to us that we have at our fingertips now, like for example this Forum.  A few days ago I asked members here about suede boots and the best way to purchase C&Js.  I was blown away by the knowledge and willingness to share information.  All in a fully transparent manner with obvious credibility from those who assisted, and I didn’t have to pay a 20% loading for it.  Later that day, one email to C&Js in the UK, with a response in 12 hours will see me hopefully wearing new shoes within the fortnight.  It is impossible to compete against this type of service if you’re running a bricks and mortar model with old season stock. 

This half hearted attempt to move to online businesses (think Harvey Norman also) has only served in my view to further alienate the consumers because as we all know here, there are NO favors to be had on a Myer or DJs web site, its just a very ordinary way to placate consumers into thinking they are embracing the online community; I think this has just served to increase the complete lack of credibility retailing in Australia seems to have right now.  And, its the reason why places like P Johnson, and others that we all frequent on here are doing so well, they have credibility and stand by their product.

Zegna in Sydney last week were at pains to tell me on several occasions that they now stock 'current' season, ie what is being released overseas now, at their stores here.  Previously as you would know we are used to seeing stock that is almost 2 years old almost.  Transparency has ensured that the Houses like Zegna are on notice that we dont want last seasons rubbish that hasn't sold overseas.

David Jones I think has tried in the same vain to hoodwink the consumer in the past few years with its museum approach to fashion.  Failing to recognize that the consumer that they target (ie demographic that is willing to pay more than the drudge at Myer) are well educated in determining for themselves if an item of interest is of value or not.  Sales aside, consumers are not drawn in by this model of sale after sale garbage where all the decent quality stock is put out the back during sales in favour of the imported rubbish sold at high margins.

Go back 5 years- having the ability to compare quality and price simultaneously has completely unsettled the retail models like David Jones. No longer are consumers prepared to sink hard earned cash into something that is made from rubbish fabric, assembled in such a shoddy manner but because it vaguely resembles the intended item DJs have for many years gotten away with charging absolute top dollar, I can imagine shareholders must be quite concerned, its just not sustainable business.

Transparency has given the consumer the ability to determine for themselves value and quality.  I have to say I was blown away by the crowds in Zara and Top Shop over the Christmas break.  I was also blown away by the bill once by girls had finished shopping, but that’s another issue.  There is a perception I think that these new entrants totally get the retail model here; Australian’s are savvy buyers who know what we like and are prepared to pay for quality...oh and lets not forget, prepared to catch trams into the city to do it. 

There is only an upside to new entrants coming to these shores replacing old outdated models that have had their time in the sun with extremely highly inflated prices and crap business models.  Perhaps the downside will be on the countries balance of payments as the Zara and Top Shop dollars flow out of the country every day. As consumers I hope to see more of the P JOhnsons, Deer Style, Son of a Tailor etc etc really being able to create a return to credibility in retailing and tailoring that has long gone the way of "this is what we have, take it or leave it" approach by the DJs and other retail Houses.  

Bring on these entrepreneurs and continue to support them - they have the credibility, passion and bring quality, nothing of what exists now in the DJs of the world. I agree with others here, its time to demand better return for your custom - am not the slightest bit interested in paying $$ for museums, give me a High Street in Fitzroy anyday.



 

AWESOME post Windowpane, thanks for your thoughts. Not much to add except I agree 100%.
post #11030 of 52281
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Originally Posted by Doug11 View Post


Will do - can you direct me to a retailer ?
I assume they are cotton ? Are they soft or scratchy/wrinkly feeling ?
Can they be ironed at home via a steam iron ? My Hilditch and Key Shirts cannot, they have to be dry-cleaned.
thanks


Yeah absolutely Doug.  Try Roberts Menswear in the Tattersalls Arcade in Brisbane.  He has just this week received a whole lot of new stock.  I will be guided by others on here as to who may be in other locations.  Mitchell Ogilvie only has the slim fits and from memory they are about $30 more expensive than Roberts.  

 

Roberts Menswear

202-210 Edward Street  Brisbane QLD 4000 (Tattersalls Arcade, cnr Edward and Queen.
(07) 3221 6741

 

Oh and re cleaning, I have ironed these on occasions with no problem at all...maybe a bit of Fabulon was used but all in all they great.  Funny you say that about Hilditch shirts - cannot iron them well at all and Im a bit of a perfectionist with my ironing...so they go to eLaundry, I dont even bother.

post #11031 of 52281
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Originally Posted by Doug11 View Post

Will do - can you direct me to a retailer ?
I assume they are cotton ? Are they soft or scratchy/wrinkly feeling ?
Can they be ironed at home via a steam iron ? My Hilditch and Key Shirts cannot, they have to be dry-cleaned.
thanks
We used to stock eton shirts back in the day when I worked at fj's, they certainly were great shirts and I remember them fondly. I don't see any reason apart from H&K covering their asses why any cotton shirt can't be hand ironed carefully and not come out better than from the dry cleaners. The dry cleaners use huge amounts of heat in their presses not to mention you have no control over their cleaning process. I go for gentle Mashona washing, line drying and hand ironing 100% of the time, and I think my shirts are much better for it. Just my opinion though.
post #11032 of 52281
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Originally Posted by Charlie's Wardrobe View Post


We used to stock eton shirts back in the day when I worked at fj's, they certainly were great shirts and I remember them fondly. I don't see any reason apart from H&K covering their asses why any cotton shirt can't be hand ironed carefully and not come out better than from the dry cleaners. The dry cleaners use huge amounts of heat in their presses not to mention you have no control over their cleaning process. I go for gentle Mashona washing, line drying and hand ironing 100% of the time, and I think my shirts are much better for it. Just my opinion though.


Think your right CW.  The thought of QLD humidity = ironing = how I like them done, doesnt seem to add up for me.  $3 at eLaundry...bargain.  I remember years ago taking shirts to Peerless in the Valley - dont even know if they still there, jeess could they bugger a shirt or many.  Have only recently starting returning to the laundering service.  Its good value.

 

post #11033 of 52281
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post

Cross-post from WAYWRN:
White spots on brown, and brown on sharkskin...

Just checked out WAYWRN. I can see why you cross posted here. Instead of actually providing feedback about clothes, the usual bullshit was going on with people preoccupied bickering and navel gazing.
post #11034 of 52281
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Originally Posted by bhall41 View Post

Just checked out WAYWRN. I can see why you cross posted here. Instead of actually providing feedback about clothes, the usual bullshit was going on with people preoccupied bickering and navel gazing.

You got it.

What is with these people anyway; it's just clothes for crying out loud! No need to pontificate and get all huffy when someone doesn't agree with you. Some interesting points but maaaaan,... was there some hot air as well!

Like Sugarbutch said, some SF'ers take things way too seriously.

Don't even get me started about the cheerleaders on either side of the divide...

First World Problems., I suppose.
post #11035 of 52281
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post
Like Sugarbutch said, some SF'ers take things way too seriously.


A friend and I pretty much came to the same conclusion this afternoon. We're just a tiny part of the greater community and what some might call a train wreck over here is probably dressed better than 90% of the general population.

 

At the end of the day, at least some thought goes into these looks - whether they appeal to you or me is a different story and shouldn't really matter.

post #11036 of 52281
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post



A friend and I pretty much came to the same conclusion this afternoon. We're just a tiny part of the greater community and what some might call a train wreck over here is probably dressed better than 90% of the general population.

 

At the end of the day, at least some thought goes into these looks - whether they appeal to you or me is a different story and shouldn't really matter.


QFT
post #11037 of 52281

What's the go with Rhodes and beckett shirts. Any good? They're on sale.

post #11038 of 52281

Thanks, man, and while we're on the subject of bickering about the small things, another thought occurred to me.

 

It's not uncommon to get caught up in things - clothes, fitness, playing music, etc. I do it all the time. I sometimes have trouble keeping in mind why I'm doing these things and end up getting sidetracked and obsessed - I'm not going to the gym for the sake of going to the gym and I'm not buying these clothes for the sake of buying them. 

 

The bottom line is that these all flow through into real life. Enjoy what you do and don't obsess. Wear the hell out of these clothes while you're being awesome in life. 

 

I've been in guitar forums where people are so obsessed about tiny details that they forget to play the damn thing. 

 

The main thing is to have fun with it all  - life is too short!

post #11039 of 52281
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

Thanks, man, and while we're on the subject of bickering about the small things, another thought occurred to me.

It's not uncommon to get caught up in things - clothes, fitness, playing music, etc. I do it all the time. I sometimes have trouble keeping in mind why I'm doing these things and end up getting sidetracked and obsessed - I'm not going to the gym for the sake of going to the gym and I'm not buying these clothes for the sake of buying them. 

The bottom line is that these all flow through into real life. Enjoy what you do and don't obsess. Wear the hell out of these clothes while you're being awesome in life. 

I've been in guitar forums where people are so obsessed about tiny details that they forget to play the damn thing. 

The main thing is to have fun with it all  - life is too short!

Exactly...could not agree more (and can be guilt of this myself).
post #11040 of 52281
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

I've been in guitar forums where people are so obsessed about tiny details that they forget to play the damn thing. 

The main thing is to have fun with it all  - life is too short!

Same things happen in bike forums, or ski forums.

A good phrase I use is 'analysis paralysis'.
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