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post #16 of 30
A blurb in Newsweek does not change the fact that Buffalo and the rest of WNY are firmly stuck in the Rust Belt. Sadly, they have not benefited over the last 20 years from the boom that stretched from NYC to Albany. It is a desolate city.
post #17 of 30
You are correct. The article from Businessweek will not change the geographic location of Buffalo.

It is not desolate. In fact, it's the 68th largest city in the nation. The poulation has surely declined since the mid-century mark, but it is not some barren wasteland.
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post #19 of 30
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A blurb in Newsweek does not change the fact that Buffalo and the rest of WNY are firmly stuck in the Rust Belt. Sadly, they have not benefited over the last 20 years from the boom that stretched from NYC to Albany. It is a desolate city.
Boom in Albany? I think the boom from NYC never stretched that far north. Albany is an eye-sore. The bus station looks like violent crime could happen there any moment and it would be perfectly normal. I recall very few decent places even to eat or go out for a drink in the city of Albany. Syracuse isn't exactly a bustling metropolis nor fairy-tale of economic prosperity, but at least we've got some microneighborhoods that have gorgeous restored industrial architecture, awesome food and drink, excellent housing and a passable city infrastructure. Buffalo? They get their once-a-year headline when they get a major snowstorm early each winter. And they have some hockey, I hear.
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Boom in Albany? I think the boom from NYC never stretched that far north. Albany is an eye-sore. The bus station looks like violent crime could happen there any moment and it would be perfectly normal. I recall very few decent places even to eat or go out for a drink in the city of Albany. Syracuse isn't exactly a bustling metropolis nor fairy-tale of economic prosperity, but at least we've got some microneighborhoods that have gorgeous restored industrial architecture, awesome food and drink, excellent housing and a passable city infrastructure. Buffalo? They get their once-a-year headline when they get a major snowstorm early each winter. And they have some hockey, I hear.
Typical "My dick is bigger than yours" shit in the form of hometown pride... Look, there is no denying that the state of New York north and west of Albany is almost always depressed (on and off). With some exceptions like Lake George and other Adirondack resort towns, none of these places can match their downstate peers. Albany has a fair number of good bars and good restaurants. Can't say I've ever been to a good restaurant in Syracuse. This isn't really a matter of opinion. The data tells you all you need to know: the Capital Region has accelerated past Western and Central NY over the past couple of decades.
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Typical "My dick is bigger than yours" shit in the form of hometown pride...
Oh, sorry, I thought that's the thread I had stumbled into
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Look, there is no denying that the state of New York north and west of Albany is almost always depressed (on and off). With some exceptions like Lake George and other Adirondack resort towns, none of these places can match their downstate peers. Albany has a fair number of good bars and good restaurants. Can't say I've ever been to a good restaurant in Syracuse.
I've lived in Albany and Syracuse. When I lived in Albany, I only recall dive bars, a few select decent restaurants but nothing like a whole neighborhood full of decent places to go, shop and eat. Since moving back to Syracuse three or four years ago (admittedly, a much smaller city and with its own share of economic depression and upstate-new-york-itis) I've at least found a few neighborhoods loaded with excellent shopping, food and drink establishments (Armory Square, Hanover Square, Skaneateles, and a few others). I was merely pointing out that difference.
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This isn't really a matter of opinion. The data tells you all you need to know: the Capital Region has accelerated past Western and Central NY over the past couple of decades.
State jobs and jobs that feed off of the state systems, I wonder? I can't think of a compelling reason to move to Albany for the scenery, the lifestyle, the sports teams or... well, anything else really. Of course there are few compelling reasons to move anywhere in upstate New York unless you like snow, lack of sunlight, high taxes and a tense job market. Heh.
post #22 of 30
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State jobs and jobs that feed off of the state systems, I wonder? I can't think of a compelling reason to move to Albany for the scenery, the lifestyle, the sports teams or... well, anything else really.
Hey, no argument from me there. Albany is not some shining metropolis. I am actually from Saratoga and find little reason to venture into Albany on any regular basis (aside from concerts and whatnot). I just think the Capital Region is, overall, a nice place. The Albany 'burbs are a good place to raise a family and a good place to grow up in. Not saying I'd do Cap. Region over California or something, but...
post #23 of 30
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A blurb in Newsweek does not change the fact that Buffalo and the rest of WNY are firmly stuck in the Rust Belt. Sadly, they have not benefited over the last 20 years from the boom that stretched from NYC to Albany. It is a desolate city.

Yes, because Albany is just such a wonderous gem of a city.

In new york state, everything outside manhattan is an absolute toilet.

Buffalo does have some really beautiful buildings, it's just a shame that it's turned into such a hole. In fact, besides the capital building in Albany, I'd say of the three major NY state toilets, Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse, that Buffalo downtown is probably the nicest. I'd throw Rochester in there too (as far as Buffalo being nicer).
post #24 of 30
Speaking of semi-moribund upstate NY cities, Syracuse's Niagara Mohawk Power Building is one of the most amazing Art Deco buildings I've ever seen.




post #25 of 30
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HAHA, nice to see that this thread delivers. That mohawk building is though.
post #26 of 30
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Then I am a proud piece of shit.

Is that why you moved to Auckland as well?
post #27 of 30
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Is that why you moved to Auckland as well?

I moved to Auckland for a chance to get out and see the world while I'm (reasonably) young, and it has little bearing on this thread.
post #28 of 30
Many badly decayed cities have wonderful architectural gems in various states of decrepitude (just look at Detroit), but at some point they are faint praise in terms of being a "draw" for the city. You'd have to be one hell of a die-hard FLR or Olmsted fan to make the effort.

Not to get all down on Buffalo...despite its situation, it remains rather unpretentious and has a "be calm and carry on" attitude. Toronto always has a soft spot for Buffalo.

And it's home of the Super Freak...so show some respect... bitches!
post #29 of 30
my grandfather tells me stories of how him and his dad would go down to buffalo from toronto to see all big shows. funny how things change.
post #30 of 30
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my grandfather tells me stories of how him and his dad would go down to buffalo from toronto to see all big shows. funny how things change.

so true.. i always wonder if the bills actually gonna move to TO lol
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