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I think I am going to die laughing...
why am i putting myself through this?
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(ernest @ Feb. 25 2005,22:23) Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein.  As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies.  This is true with many many designers.  He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies.  In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans.  Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product.  That he leaves to people with more experience.
Does Levis make his jeans at least?
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I think I am going to die laughing...
Die, nobody will notice the difference,  but please do it in silence. Isn't it rather "I am dying..." or "I will die...." Intsead of "I am going to..."?
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(topcatny @ Feb. 26 2005,04:26)
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Originally Posted by ernest,Feb. 25 2005,22:23
Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein.  As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies.  This is true with many many designers.  He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies.  In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans.  Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product.  That he leaves to people with more experience.
Does Levis make his jeans at least?
sort of Very few clothing manufacturers actually make their product themselves, because they do not own the factories that produce their goods They all work with factories who make the garments for them. Therefore the same factory who makes Levi's may make Calvin Klein Jeans too. In fact I believe some do. Levi's controls all aspects of the product except the actual cutting and sewing of the garment. That they contract out to a factory who does that for them.
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(ernest @ Feb. 25 2005,22:38)
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Originally Posted by topcatny,Feb. 26 2005,04:26
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Originally Posted by ernest,Feb. 25 2005,22:23
Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein.  As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies.  This is true with many many designers.  He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies.  In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans.  Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product.  That he leaves to people with more experience.
Does Levis make his jeans at least?
sort of Very few clothing manufacturers actually make their product themselves, because they do not own the factories that produce their goods  They all work with factories who make the garments for them.  Therefore the same factory who makes Levi's may make Calvin Klein Jeans too.  In fact I believe some do. Levi's controls all aspects of the product except the actual cutting and sewing of the garment.  That they contract out to a factory who does that for them.
So Levis has not his own factories with people paid by Levis?
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why am i putting myself through this?
In that case, please let me have the final say. Ernest, actually, topcatnyc is lying.  Calvin makes all the jeans himself, all the way from weaving the yarn on manual shuttle looms (he does not make the yarn himself, that is the only reason why the denim is not double ring spun   ) to the final laundering, final resin treatments if any were needed, and pressing.  Every single pair, made with love, and thinking about a young Brooke Shields all the time.  Levi's 501's are inferior because, unfortunately, Levi Strauss died after a very long life (up until the 80's, he was still clomp, clomp, clomping away on the looms), and his apprentices unfortunately had not yet mastered his artisanal techniques.  Not no funny story: Calvin and Levi had a fight because Calvin was becoming famous but refused to acknowledge that Levi was his early master, and it nearly broke Levi's heart.  Plus he was very old, so he lost.   Now you know everything there is to know about jeans.
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(topcatny @ Feb. 26 2005,04:42)
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Originally Posted by ernest,Feb. 25 2005,22:38
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Originally Posted by topcatny,Feb. 26 2005,04:26
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Originally Posted by ernest,Feb. 25 2005,22:23
Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein.  As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies.  This is true with many many designers.  He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies.  In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans.  Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product.  That he leaves to people with more experience.
Does Levis make his jeans at least?
sort of Very few clothing manufacturers actually make their product themselves, because they do not own the factories that produce their goods  They all work with factories who make the garments for them.  Therefore the same factory who makes Levi's may make Calvin Klein Jeans too.  In fact I believe some do. Levi's controls all aspects of the product except the actual cutting and sewing of the garment.  That they contract out to a factory who does that for them.
So Levis has not his own factories with people paid by Levis?
they did for sometime, but I think they sold the last one recently. I could be wrong though. If i am they only one 1 or 2 factories these days. Clearly their direction which is the same as almost all designers is that they do not want to own their own factories.
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TCNY You're completely correct on Levi Strauss. They've only shifted overseas in the last 5 years or so. Many think this a primary cause of their loss in market share. Ernest, LAG, yet another fit o' farts?
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