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 Yet A) The Gracchi failed, and were assasinated; and B) the Romans were still freely electing consuls and tribunes until Caesar took over, and the fortunes of each party waxed and waned; in other words, politics was alive, if not well.  The Republic lived on after the Gracchi.
Yes, in one sense the Gracchi failed, but their legacy had far far reaching effects, the least of which are: 1) the revolutionary way the office Tribunate is used.... as the voice of the masses rather than the representative of the Senate to the people. 2) Explioting the legislative power of the Popular Assembly, and using it as a power base. As for the Romans 'freedom' of elections, especially the offices of the Consul and Tribune.... during the days of Marius, Sulla, Pompey... who those men wanted elected was who won, even if it meant having their gangs (Remember Milo and Clodius-I use his plebiean name) run beserk during election days. The senate tried to reaffirm its control during the periods between the rise of thes powerful men, but each and every time they failed (notwithstanding the 'election' of Consuls and Tribunes). I agree wholeheartedly regarding the timescale of the Republic. I must say this topic has taken some very strange turns - from a dicusssion about a thread, to censorship, Berkeley, and now the Roman Republic.... what's next?
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The best univeristy is Tu(s?)lane.
Yes, Tulane is better than the Sorbonne right Ernest?
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Originally Posted by Manton,Feb. 25 2005,11:47
As to what happened to him since, I have no idea.
Isn't there like a Naked Talk Show or something that he could be on? My most WTF Berkeley moment came around midnight one Friday.  I had dropped a friend off and was coming down his street about turn left onto Shattuck when right in front of me coasted a man, on a  bicycle, in a pink bunny suit.  I swear I wasn't high at the time. Very, very random.  Much better than other Berkeley moments involving derelicts shouting obscenities into the air.  And you can't get a decent cup of coffee for @$)*(@*$ there.  Except for Cafe Fanny.
That derelict shouting obscenities in to the air had a name.  The Hate Man.  He was actually a kind man, once you got to know him. If you ever care to understand anything about some of those experiences you had in Berkeley with derelicts who shout, you might pause and consider that many of them may have been mentally ill.
post #214 of 227
No shit Sherlock. It wasn't the Hate Man -- it was some woman. I don't need you to educate me about sympathy, the plight of the homeless, or that of the mentally ill.
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No shit Sherlock. It wasn't the Hate Man -- it was some woman. I don't need you to educate me about sympathy, the plight of the homeless, or that of the mentally ill.
I can see I've hit a nerve. I'll get you a drink and a shot of olanzapine...WATSON.
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(linux_pro @ Feb. 25 2005,15:31) Actually, it only took Rome 200 years to develop into a system with Emperor (dictatorship).  About 250, actually.
No, the traditional date for the expulsion of the Tarquins and the foundation of the Republic by Junius Brutus is 510 BC.  (See Livy, I 58-60.)  The Senate named Caesar dictator-for-life in 44 BC.  (This is covered in a multitude of ancient sources.)  That's 466 years, by my count.
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It then lasted another 1200 years.
Depends how you count.  One may say that the Empire lasted another 1500 years, until the conquest of Constantinople by the Turks in 1453.  But a more precise accounting woud be about 500 years, until 493, when Theodoric assasinated Odoacer and completed the barbarian conquest of Italy.  That was the end of the Western Empire, for good and all.
Manton, great avatar. I think he looked a little more distinguieshed when he was older, but this is a great picture, too. one of my favorite pictures of myself is next to his tomb.
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one of my favorite pictures of myself is next to his tomb.
I have one too.  I am wearing my first bespoke blazer.   Ya gotta love the Italians.  They're so proud of Nicky's fame that they actually buried the anti-Christ in Santa Croce, the Westminster Abby of Italy.  Who the hell signed off on that? I think the Santo di Tito potrait is by far the best. Which one do you like better?
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they actually buried the anti-Christ in Santa Croce, the Westminster Abby of Italy.
Doesn't the Bible say something about the Anti-Christ being the leader of a great nation that initiated a war in the Middle East over oil in the end times? NOTE: This is a question, not a political argument...
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Doesn't the Bible say something about the Anti-Christ being the leader of a great nation that initiated a war in the Middle East over oil in the end times?
I think the only mentions of oil in the Bible are when it talks about annointing people's foreheads with the stuff.  But I'm no Biblical scholar, and I could be wrong ...
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I think the only mentions of oil in the Bible are when it talks about annointing people's foreheads with the stuff. But I'm no Biblical scholar, and I could be wrong ...
Funny, I could swear it's in my original Greek version.
post #221 of 227
olive oil is mentioned a lot in the bible, as a food staple and for annointing. petrolium is mentioned someplace, but I am not sure if it is in the apcrepha, the dead sea used to be known for having large deposits of minaral oil. Manton, yeah you have to wonder who signed off on that, huh? I am not sure who painted the portrait that I like, I have to pull out the book, I am thinking of the one with a skull cap where he seems a little older.
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one of my favorite pictures of myself is next to his tomb.
I have one too.  I am wearing my first bespoke blazer.   Ya gotta love the Italians.  They're so proud of Nicky's fame that they actually buried the anti-Christ in Santa Croce, the Westminster Abby of Italy.  Who the hell signed off on that? I think the Santo di Tito potrait is by far the best.  Which one do you like better?
Hey, how did you guys take the picture? With flash? Didn't the security dudes castigate you?  Well, his tomb wasn't that crowded, more around Galileo et al.  I had to find a place to put my minipod on and zoom like mad:
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they actually buried the anti-Christ in Santa Croce, the Westminster Abby of Italy.
Doesn't the Bible say something about the Anti-Christ being the leader of a great nation that initiated a war in the Middle East over oil in the end times? NOTE: This is a question, not a political argument...
Hey, Steve gets it, about the leader of the "Silver Ring Thing" with his belief that the end is near.... and his movement is near and dear to the President's heart.
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(RJMan @ Feb. 26 2005,18:59) No shit Sherlock. It wasn't the Hate Man -- it was some woman. I don't need you to educate me about sympathy, the plight of the homeless, or that of the mentally ill.
I can see I've hit a nerve.  I'll get you a drink and a shot of olanzapine...WATSON.
You should be aware Johnapril, RJman thinks he knows everything. He is much smarter than most of us. Have you seen his posts where he corrects people on their spelling. He is a 27 year old kid that thinks he knows it all. No offense intended Raj, l'm just pointing out the facts based on the written evidence from the forum archives. BTW: boring topic lads. l have agonisingly (is that spelt right RJman) read 23 pages of this topic and have finally concluded that l have wasted my time. l am very vexed. l h8 wasting time. l am not returning to this thread, l am out of here.
post #225 of 227
Common T4phage. Where is your usual attack on me. Come on, humour me.
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