Â Yet A) The Gracchi failed, and were assasinated; and B) the Romans were still freely electing consuls and tribunes until Caesar took over, and the fortunes of each party waxed and waned; in other words, politics was alive, if not well. Â The Republic lived on after the Gracchi.
Yes, in one sense the Gracchi failed, but their legacy had far far reaching effects, the least of which are: 1) the revolutionary way the office Tribunate is used.... as the voice of the masses rather than the representative of the Senate to the people. 2) Explioting the legislative power of the Popular Assembly, and using it as a power base. As for the Romans 'freedom' of elections, especially the offices of the Consul and Tribune.... during the days of Marius, Sulla, Pompey... who those men wanted elected was who won, even if it meant having their gangs (Remember Milo and Clodius-I use his plebiean
name) run beserk during election days. The senate tried to reaffirm its control during the periods between the rise of thes powerful men, but each and every time they failed (notwithstanding the 'election' of Consuls and Tribunes). I agree wholeheartedly regarding the timescale of the Republic. I must say this topic has taken some very strange turns - from a dicusssion about
a thread, to censorship, Berkeley, and now the Roman Republic.... what's next?