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post #151 of 227
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Well... if you avoid Sproul and Sather gate, especially during the first few weeks of the semester, you'll be okay   . But you still have to avoid the occasional "naked group circle singalong" by a bunch of 50 something hippies   . First time I saw it, I was wondering whether they were protesting something or just having a happy fun joy thing.
You weren't really disturbed by any of this, were you? I spent years in Berkeley, and frankly I never felt compelled to judge any of what others were doing. They did not judge me. Please explain. Also, please explain what is meant by "happy fun joy thing." Thanks.
post #152 of 227
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The founder of the "Silver Ring Thing" is a fervent believer that the "end is neigh", and this movement is close and dear to Mr. Bush's heart - just look at the amount of government funding they've been getting.
I have no idea who you mean.
post #153 of 227
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(T4phage @ Feb. 25 2005,10:57) Well... if you avoid Sproul and Sather gate, especially during the first few weeks of the semester, you'll be okay   . But you still have to avoid the occasional "naked group circle singalong" by a bunch of 50 something hippies   . First time I saw it, I was wondering whether they were protesting something or just having a happy fun joy thing.
You weren't really disturbed by any of this, were you?   I spent years in Berkeley, and frankly I never felt compelled to judge any of what others were doing.  They did not judge me.  Please explain.  Also, please explain what is meant by "happy fun joy thing."  Thanks.
Nahh, it was pretty funny actually. (after you get over the inital shock of walking down Bancroft and seeing it) . What I meant about "Happy fun Joy" was when they were in their circle, it was pretty close and the sounds emanating was pretty close to what I would imagine a circle jerk would sound like. It's also a bit of a shock when "the naked guy" leaves the classroom as you enter...
post #154 of 227
I freely admit that I let Berkeley get to me. I was young and impressionable, and frankly shocked by the whole scene. If I had it to do over again, I would try harder to maintain an attitude of amused detachment. I would still be saddened, however, by the decline of a once-great university into a silly carnival.
post #155 of 227
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(T4phage @ Feb. 25 2005,10:57) The founder of the "Silver Ring Thing" is a fervent believer that the "end is neigh", and this movement is close and dear to Mr. Bush's heart - just look at the amount of government funding they've been getting.
I have no idea who you mean.
You must have heard of the movement that promotes virginity? They affirm their virginity vow by wearing a silver ring...
post #156 of 227
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I freely admit that I let Berkeley get to me.  I was young and impressionable, and frankly shocked by the whole scene.  If I had it to do over again, I would try harder to maintain an attitude of amused detachment.  I would still be saddened, however, by the decline of a once-great university into a silly carnival.
Hey. The Molecular Biology department is one of the finest in the world. As is the Computer Science dept.
post #157 of 227
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You must have heard of the movement that promotes virginity? They affirm their virginity vow by wearing a silver ring...
Personally, I don't consider abstinence a fringe idea. Out of date? Arguably. Hard to maintain in this day and age? Certainly. Unpopular (almost despised) in certain quarters? No doubt.
post #158 of 227
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(T4phage @ Feb. 25 2005,11:09) You must have heard of the movement that promotes virginity? They affirm their virginity vow by wearing a silver ring...
Personally, I don't consider abstinence a fringe idea. Out of date? Arguably. Hard to maintain in this day and age? Certainly. Unpopular (almost despised) in certain quarters? No doubt.
Nuns wear silver rings? Jon.
post #159 of 227
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Hey. The Molecular Biology department is one of the finest in the world.  As is the Computer Science dept.
The humanities and the social sciences are jokes, sad shadows of their prior greatness. And, as a whole, the rest of the school is basically a 1960s Fantasy Camp. Come play at protest for four -- or even five or six or seven -- years. Why not? Your parents are paying.
post #160 of 227
This has nothing to do with clothing, so it is going to General. Big Brother loves you.
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Censorship.
post #162 of 227
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(T4phage @ Feb. 25 2005,11:09) You must have heard of the movement that promotes virginity? They affirm their virginity vow by wearing a silver ring...
Personally, I don't consider abstinence a fringe idea.  Out of date?  Arguably.  Hard to maintain in this day and age?  Certainly.  Unpopular (almost despised) in certain quarters?  No doubt.
Well, what I wanted to point out is that it's founder has some very "fringe" ideas... such as the end of the world. But his "Silver Ring Thing" movement is quite dangerous in other ways. See: BBC report
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Abstinence has a higher failure rate than condoms or the pill.
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Abstinence has a higher failure rate than condoms or the pill.
Well, Colombia U did some research about the failures of such abstinence programmes, and the high rates of STD amongst those who used to participate.
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For those who object to Manton's ongoing use of the "Berkeley" reference, allow me to recall the following from personal history and sans point-of-view. I entered the American university system in 1968. Yes, I really am that old. When I did, upperclassmen were kind enough to instruct, nay, indoctrinate, our frosh class on the most important aspects of college: 1] Berkely and Columbia were marching in the forefront and setting the goals. They were our 'leaders'. 2] It was our responsibility at S.U.N.Y Stony Brook to become the third institution with "the right stuff". 3] Although studies were important, the overarching concern of all students was "the telephone tree" ... that predecessor to e-mail by which all members of the campus were to be instantly aware should the "pigs" enter the sacred University. And with that, my first semester term project became performing my part to insure that we succeeded at having appropriate mini-riots and that we attack a symbol of the Establishment. In our case, that meant burning down the guardhouse. Yes, there are students at Berkeley who are there to learn. But what is it that the faculty is there to teach? Do they do so from a particular point-of-view? And if that is the case, what do the students learn? As a result, is the student body as a whole swayed from center to left? I believe, to quote some famous old dead guy, that these truths are self-evident. Somehow, I get the feeling that documenting the righteousness of the Establishment has not, in the intervening 37 years, risen to the pinnacle of the overall Berkeley 'to-do' list.
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