Originally Posted by mafoofan
Okay, for the sake of argument, let's say there is a Tom Ford look. It is only defined in relation to a large group of consumers, not individual people. We might say that Tom Ford has developed a Tom Ford Man, but he has not anticipaed a Tom Ford Holdfast or Tom Ford Mafoofan. So, who is to say that a bespoke tailor could not get you closer to being Tom Ford Holdfast than Tom Ford can?
Oh, this I agree with, no problems.
I would say it would be quite difficult, still. It would require quite a hell of a lot of aesthetic appreciation combined with both an ability to focus on detail and take a more birds-eye view on both on my part and that of the tailor. But yes, in theory, I agree entirely that I could get closer to "Tom Ford Holdfast" with a bespoke tailor than with Tom Ford.
But that would be MY and my TAILOR'S interpretation of Tom Ford. We would be redesigning it to better suit me. This is not necessarily a bad thing of course. To you or to me, it would actually be a good thing! But it would not necessarily be a good thing to everyone since it would be different to Tom Ford's own vision of the look and if someone really just wanted that look, they'd be better off going to the original.
If someone wants to wear Tom Ford-ness in all its unidentified, undefined glory, I suppose the only way to do that is to buy the Tom Ford brand.
This is my fundamental point, though I would not couch it in such dismissive terms because I don't think it's as non-specific as you do.
But if someone likes the look, it makes perfect sense to stop and wonder what he likes about it and whether it can be better attained elsewhere.
Yes, but remember you won't get exactly the look you liked. You'll get a variation of it that may or may not satisfy you.
I think we're not disagreeing as much as you think, but we are talking at slight cross-purposes.
The point is what it is the buyer wants.
If the buyer wants Tom Ford, they need to buy Tom Ford.
If they like elements of Tom Ford but are happy to accept some deviations in order to better flatter/fit them as an individual (which I think both of us would consider a smarter decision), then a bespoke tailor should be able to deliver that IF the tailor is flexible and IF both the tailor and the buyer have a pretty well-developed aesthetic sense to know what to include, what to modify and what to completely leave out. This is NOT an easy skill set, but can be done with practice/training.
If on the other hand, they can find a bespoke tailor whose house style is close to what they already like in terms of aesthetics rather than trying to mould that tailor's style to one vastly different to their usual work, then that by far holds out the best potential for satisfaction on the part of the buyer. It will require less interpretation and redesigning by both the buyer and tailor, and be more within the natural range & experience of the tailor.
It depends what the buyer wants, I think.