Originally Posted by edmorel
not to be combative, but going back to Fuuma's point, how is this different than "house style" of the bespoke guys? Let's assume TF was a bespoke guy, you would go to him because you liked his outlandish suits, not to tell him how to adapt his style to yours. We see that in some of the posts here about bespoke tailors. The guys here who are clients more times than not say something to the effect "I let the tailor do as he pleased as he is the expert". Solito was interviewed not long ago and pretty much said the same thing, "come to me for what I do, not for what you want".
You are right...there is no difference save one: a good bespoke maker creates things for individuals, while a good RTW designer creates for a mannikin.
The peculiar talent of the great bespoke maker is often presumed or confused to be the features list: pocket here but not there; lapel this wide not that; crazy lining; odd fabric. Etc. While there is an aspect of this that is certainly true, it is in the conformity of the garment to the living body and the goals of the client where the differences are, in my view, most profound.
Tom Ford is not, nor does he pretend to be, very interested in who you are or how you look. If you fit his suits and can pay, great...if not, see ya later. This might sound like what Solito is saying, but Solito is saying that within the premise that he will fashion clothes with the primary goal of conforming to you.
Where the dialog enters in is that if you are not working your bespoke tailor with knowledge and confidence, you are not going to elicit that tailor's best. Such a tailor needs to hear from you and...this is somewhat hard...respect and be interested in what you are saying.
As far as I know, a Tom Ford client is not going to be speaking with Tom as his clothes get made up.