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post #136 of 160
Gems of wisdom and insight, Manton. I'll try it another way, when you say conservative what do you mean? Also, where does the west end and the east begin? And why don't the baby airplanes fly around with their mothers?
post #137 of 160
I do not speak in metaphor, grasshopper. Look, time was, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois, and liberals -- people on the left, whatever -- by and large clenched their teeth and held their noses but had to agree that it was the right decision.  Those days are long gone.  Nowadays, the left is behind most calls for censorship.  Sure, they like to howl about the "puritanism" of fining CBS over Janet Jackson's breast, but that only distracts from the fact that the vast majority of calls for real censorship -- the censorship of thoughts and ideas --in this country today come from the left side of the aisle. Something changed.  The change has not been good, for the left, or for America.
post #138 of 160
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And why don't the baby airplanes fly around with their mothers?
LOL. Now that I found funny for some reason.
post #139 of 160
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(johnapril @ Feb. 25 2005,10:02) And why don't the baby airplanes fly around with their mothers?
LOL.  Now that I found funny for some reason.  
You might like "The book of questions", by Pablo Neruda. It's a collection of poems composed of unanswerable questions.
post #140 of 160
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I do not speak in metaphor, grasshopper. Look, time was, the ACLU defended the right of Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois, and liberals -- people on the left, whatever -- by and large clenched their teeth and held their noses but had to agree that it was the right decision.  Those days are long gone.  Nowadays, the left is behind most calls for censorship.  Sure, they like to howl about the "puritanism" of fining CBS over Janet Jackson's breast, but that only distracts from the fact that the vast majority of calls for real censorship -- the censorship of thoughts and ideas --in this country today come from the left side of the aisle. Something changed.  The change has not been good, for the left, or for America.
I don't consider that the left. Perhaps you mean the milquetoast crypto-conservatives that masquerade as the American left. As Goere Vidal astutely commented, "There are two political parties in the U.S.: the conservative and the reactionary."
post #141 of 160
Vidal is wrong. We've got 'em all over here. Thankfully, the more fringe they are on either side, the further they are from the levers of power. It's one of the reasons why we've been able to remain a republic for 228 years and counting.
post #142 of 160
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As Goere Vidal astutely commented, "There are two political parties in the U.S.: the conservative and the reactionary."
Wow, Kaga has claws... I think you've had too much time on your hands since your show was cancelled. That said, I agree with you.
post #143 of 160
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Vidal is wrong.  We've got 'em all over here.  Thankfully, the more fringe they are on either side, the further they are from the levers of power.  It's one of the reasons why we've been able to remain a republic for 228 years and counting.
Can you elaborate on the last sentence?
post #144 of 160
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Vidal is wrong.  We've got 'em all over here.  Thankfully, the more fringe they are on either side, the further they are from the levers of power.  It's one of the reasons why we've been able to remain a republic for 228 years and counting.
Manto-san, as Kaga would say (IMMSMC), only in America out of what passes for the developed world would health care, social support and opposition to the death penalty be considered fringe.
post #145 of 160
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Can you elaborate on the last sentence?
Republican (small "r") government is hard to maintain. There are a lot of reasons for this. Anyway, throughout history, republicanism has been an anomaly. Before the founding of the United States, the only republic that can be said to have been truly successful was Rome. And even it eventually slithered into tyranny. It took 400 years or so, which is a pretty good run. I hope we last that long. Who knows?
post #146 of 160
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Manto-san, as Kaga would say (IMMSMC), only in America out of what passes for the developed world would health care, social support and opposition to the death penalty be considered fringe.
That's not the fringe. All of those policies are in place, somewhere or another, to one degree or another, either at the federal or state level in this country. Not to the same extent as Europe, to be sure, but to imply that they don't exist is wrong.
post #147 of 160
Honest question, without any ulterior motive -- anyone know how long the republic of Venice lasted? I know it wasn't much of one, just curious. Anyway, I knew that Styleman would keep making monkeys out of us -- look at this thread. Where'd Rbaalrajhi go? Back to Tora Bora?
post #148 of 160
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Honest question, without any ulterior motive -- anyone know how long the republic of Venice lasted?  I know it wasn't much of one, just curious.
About 700 years. But it was really an oligarchy.
post #149 of 160
I think it lasted from around 1200 to 1800 when it was conquered by Napoleon, but it was a Republic in name only and functioned as an oligarchy. As for Styleman, I'm sure he is busy thinking up his next character for the board. Rbaalrajhi was kind of a flop.
post #150 of 160
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Mine too.  I spent a rough couple of years there.  What a freakshow.
Well... if you avoid Sproul and Sather gate, especially during the first few weeks of the semester, you'll be okay . But you still have to avoid the occasional "naked group circle singalong" by a bunch of 50 something hippies . First time I saw it, I was wondering whether they were protesting something or just having a happy fun joy thing. Originally posted by Manton:
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Thankfully, the more fringe they are on either side, the further they are from the levers of power.
Well.. an example. The founder of the "Silver Ring Thing" is a fervent believer that the "end is neigh", and this movement is close and dear to Mr. Bush's heart - just look at the amount of government funding they've been getting.
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