I voted for Grayson; but it's really a toss up between him and ernest. Neither are completely ignorant, but both are dangerously misinformed *and* opinionated. On the plus side, ernest seems to be at least honest, so he can't be called on any unsubstantiated claims. On the other hand, his grasp of both logic and the English language are tenuous at best. Marc, on the other hand, seems to be a pathological liar, which creates lots of openings, but is much more articulate in English, but is not a logician by any stretch of the imagination. Of course, neither is amenable to reason anyway, so logic would not be a useful tool in any case. They both cling to their convictions like a fat man to his last bucket of KFC before he has to participate in "The Biggest Loser." I put the odds at 50/50, with Marc using fewer racial epithets but more screams of "But he is not a real tailor. My tailor told me so." Maybe j. could arrange for a Battle Royale/Cage match?