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post #196 of 225
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My Nudie RRs have had about twenty-something wearings... not long now.
Twenty-something? Is that all it takes? I'd really encourage you to take before and after pictures if you wouldn't mind. I'm committed to going as long as a can with my dry RR selvedge, but if the results are good after only twenty wearing I might not feel like going so far. (I'm at a month and a half of daily wear, but believe me, I'll stop before they start smelling. Maybe.)
post #197 of 225
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My Nudie RRs have had about twenty-something wearings... not long now.
Twenty-something? Is that all it takes?
Well... no. 160 wearings to go, by my calculations. I was encouraging myself.
post #198 of 225
I'm at 52 wearings right now. I have a little bit of whiskering going on, some fading on the thighs and knees, fading along where my cell phone always is, rips coming in at the corner of my wallet - this gets extra abuse from my canvas messenger bag rubbing against the back pockets. Also, the jeans have turned from dark grey to dark blue. I plan to wear them for 300 wearings or so (each wearing being 12 hours). If the crotch rips, I'll wash them though, and then repair. I have a feeling that might happen before 300.
post #199 of 225
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Excellent. I am in serious consideration of those XX-type Denimes (I prefer the Levis type over the Lee type). How are you going to accomodate for shrinkage? I was thinking of giving them a warm soak brand new (no detergent) so that when they shrink, the whiskers and fades don't slide up to the incorrect spots. Denimes are so god damn heavy, it shouldn't be a problem getting crisp wear marks even after a soak. -B
The "Riders" type are sanfordized, like the original Lee's they're based on. I did soak them before wearing them. They might have lost a tad of length. Waist stayed the same. These are dyed very dark, by the way. I alway soak jeans before wearing them. They remain pretty stiff, but not so ridiculously stiff as when raw.
post #200 of 225
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I'm at 52 wearings right now. I have a little bit of whiskering going on, some fading on the thighs and knees, fading along where my cell phone always is, rips coming in at the corner of my wallet - this gets extra abuse from my canvas messenger bag rubbing against the back pockets. Also, the jeans have turned from dark grey to dark blue. I plan to wear them for 300 wearings or so (each wearing being 12 hours). If the crotch rips, I'll wash them though, and then repair. I have a feeling that might happen before 300.
Does your canvas bag absorb the indigo dye? What color is it?
post #201 of 225
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BTW, are they phasing out the GTO in favor of the BMX? If so, that'd be a travesty--the BMX is cut even less slim and made from inferior cotton.
What is this about the BMX cut using inferior cotton? I bought a pair of these this last weekend, and it is my first pair of PDCs. I tried on several different cuts, but I liked these the most. I originally went to the store looking to buy my first pair of raw denim jeans. They didn't have any nudies, but they did have Earnest Sewn raw selvage denim. I tried these on but I didn't realize that raw denim was so long before it shrunk. I had to roll them up at least four inches so they didnt touch the ground. Anyways, I am happy with my PDC BMXs
post #202 of 225
I definatly need some pictures of your Nudies and the long term jeans you all are wearing. I am planning on coping a pair of A.P.C. Standard Jeans and Nudie Flare Glenn Dry. For the A.P.C.'s, will they wear like the nudies? And I have what some like to call a "large" butt, will those jeans work for me?
post #203 of 225
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What is this about the BMX cut using inferior cotton?  I bought a pair of these this last weekend, and it is my first pair of PDCs.  I tried on several different cuts, but I liked these the most. I originally went to the store looking to buy my first pair of raw denim jeans.  They didn't have any nudies, but they did have Earnest Sewn raw selvage denim.  I tried these on but I didn't realize that raw denim was so long before it shrunk.  I had to roll them up at least four inches so they didnt touch the ground.   Anyways, I am happy with my PDC BMXs  
To me, the cotton in the BMX Marlowe doesn't have the same slubby, tactile feel and softness that older PDCs had. I'm talking about GTO 1-years, ICN Clones, and basically a lot of pre-2003 jeans. I admit I may have been prejudiced upon finding that the cotton comes from Turkey, rather than Italy or Japan. The new ones aren't bad necessarily, and the Marlowe wash is better than anything Chip and Pepper offers. But it's a step down from previous iterations of PDC treatments, IMO. Of course, the bottom line: if you like the jeans, none of that matters. Enjoy them.
post #204 of 225
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I definatly need some pictures of your Nudies and the long term jeans you all are wearing. I am planning on coping a pair of A.P.C. Standard Jeans and Nudie Flare Glenn Dry. For the A.P.C.'s, will they wear like the nudies? And I have what some like to call a "large" butt, will those jeans work for me?
As for the junk in the trunk... Nudie jeans use top quality denim, but evidently some particular ones (such as Bootcut Ola) stretch a LOT, which means that guys with a slightly bigger butt won't do so well in them. I am not sure about Flare Glenns. I would definitely try them on, however as most Nudies are very fitted and cut close in the seat. A.P.C.'s (standards) are also quite fitted around the seat. Again, I would try them on. You're probably fine. The A.P.C.'s will not wear like Nudies, per se, as they are made from a completely different denim weave and the dying process is significantly different. However, if you're speaking in a purely general sense, ALL unwashed jeans will get whiskers and fading if they are worn for extensive periods without washing. This is not really a Nudie-only thing, they just market this heavily and they are getting a lot of converts over to the unwashed denim market. There are 30 companies I could list out that all sell unwashed denim, and all of them will wear completely differently. I will definitely be posting of my RRs as they age. I'll post my first picture at 3 (90 wearings) so you can check it out.
post #205 of 225
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As for the junk in the trunk... Nudie jeans use top quality denim, but evidently some particular ones (such as Bootcut Ola) stretch a LOT, which means that guys with a slightly bigger butt won't do so well in them. I am not sure about Flare Glenns. I would definitely try them on, however as most Nudies are very fitted and cut close in the seat. A.P.C.'s (standards) are also quite fitted around the seat. Again, I would try them on. You're probably fine. The A.P.C.'s will not wear like Nudies, per se, as they are made from a completely different denim weave and the dying process is significantly different. However, if you're speaking in a purely general sense, ALL unwashed jeans will get whiskers and fading if they are worn for extensive periods without washing. This is not really a Nudie-only thing, they just market this heavily and they are getting a lot of converts over to the unwashed denim market. There are 30 companies I could list out that all sell unwashed denim, and all of them will wear completely differently. I will definitely be posting of my RRs as they age. I'll post my first picture at 3 (90 wearings) so you can check it out.
I'll be sure to try them on, may have to wait till I got to NYC in May though. What are some other decent brands that are in the unwashed market? And lets say I am way getting into jeans, are there any other forums other than superfuture that has an ongoing discussion of this kind of stuff? This has been my favorite thread on styleforum, and I'm looking for more.
post #206 of 225
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mp us back to the top. Brian, I was really surprised about your telling me that you thought that the Nudie RR were slimmer than the GTOs. That wasn't my experieince at all, and I though that maybe one or the other company maybe used a very different fit model for sizing up and down (you are about 4 inches skinnier than I am.) Guess that confusion cleared up. As for raw denim jeans, although a fan of some of the Nudie, for value and original concept, you've got to give it to A.P.C. Hey Brian, get that belt yet? What do you think?( Maybe you've posted an answer maybe in another thread?)
post #207 of 225
I'm still waiting for the belt... Mr. Drinkwater said to expect it wednesday, so I'm expecting it today. Sorry about the sizing confusion, I didnt even think about the fact that I have different sizes when I first mentioned it. But you also have to take into consideration that I think 85% of people who buy RRs actually need to be ordering a size down (two for some) to get the right waist. They are cut really big on the waistband. Here are some other labels that sell unwashed denim: Edwin 5EP (my recommendation here, however very expensive) Denime Varvatos Levis LVC Uniqlo Lee Japan Helmut Lang Countless Japanese Levis-repro Howies Atelier La Durance There was a long thread on selvage denim at the Men's Health forum I read up on... one guy there really knew what he was talking about. Other than that, I have only found SuperFuture for discussions on this kind of thing. Some other websites should be coming around sometime soon. If I have the time, I might just start up a site focused entirely on jeans.. where to buy em, prices, reviews, photos, etc.
post #208 of 225
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There was a long thread on selvage denim at the Men's Health forum I read up on... one guy there really knew what he was talking about. Other than that, I have only found SuperFuture for discussions on this kind of thing. Some other websites should be coming around sometime soon. If I have the time, I might just start up a site focused entirely on jeans.. where to buy em, prices, reviews, photos, etc.
I think that is the same guy who goes by the name ringring on the Superforums. He is really knowledgeable. I'm sort of torn about the whole raw denim thing. On one hand, it is sort of cool to break in your own jeans. On the other, I really disagree with the fanatical denimheads that insist on Japanese selvedge repros, and I'm sort of distressed (pun not intended) that the whole "raw denim" thing is becoming the jean snob equivalent to guys who will only wear hand canvasssed suits. Some processed, treated jeans are carefully designed and manufactured, and not meant to look or be the same as a pair of raw denim jeans that has actually been worn over time (although by the same token, some treatments are really horrendous). There is no way you are going to get a pair of Rogan jeans to look and feel like a pair of Rogan jeans, for example, from raw denim jeans.
post #209 of 225
I have to agree with Brian about the sizing of Nudies. I dropped down one size for my RRs, but i really should have dropped two sizes. As a result, there is plenty of extra room in the seat and the seat stuck out a bit when they were still stiff, but after wearing them for a bit i don't seem to have that problem too much anymore. Other than that, Nudies do seem to be relatively slim, but not the slimmest jeans i own.
post #210 of 225
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I'm sort of torn about the whole raw denim thing. On one hand, it is sort of cool to break in your own jeans. On the other, I really disagree with the fanatical denimheads that insist on Japanese selvedge repros, and I'm sort of distressed (pun not intended) that the whole "raw denim" thing is becoming the jean snob equivalent to guys who will only wear hand canvasssed suits. Some processed, treated jeans are carefully designed and manufactured, and not meant to look or be the same as a pair of raw denim jeans that has actually been worn over time (although by the same token, some treatments are really horrendous). There is no way you are going to get a pair of Rogan jeans to look and feel like a pair of Rogan jeans, for example, from raw denim jeans.
Good points. I don't see the rigid jeans becoming a snob thing, because in general they are cheaper than their laundered counterparts and are far less luxurious in general. A lot more work goes into making the hand-rubbed distressed jeans than unwashed jeans like you said, but they don't hold the same level of authenticity and personality that raw denim does. The imperfections of jeans made on antique looms is what attracts me to it, each pair is unique and will wear disctinctively based on your wearing habits, and that is really cool. There's also an attraction, for me at least, to the "blank canvas" feel of new jeans, and the fact that they become my new art project, almost. I also like the characteristics of classic jeans, such as hidden rivets, selvage seams and straight legs, and I hold a general attraction towards the history of Levis and denim in general.
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