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post #32 of 118
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Purchasing an expensive pocket square (unless you absolutely adore the design and can't find it anywhere else) seems silly to me. That said I would have told you the same thing about suits a couple of years ago. SO basically my question is regarding what you get for your money. Is there some gain to superior construction that benefits an accessory that receives absolutely NO wear and tear? Noone touches it so quality silk shouldn't matter. For that matter what does the board think of going to straight up handkerchiefs? If well ironed wouldn't they function much the same? I've always romanticized the idea of being as old school and practical with my accessories as possible, plus it would be pretty amazing to whip out a linen handkerchief for a crying woman.
BostonRussell, You make very good points. Very simple machine edged pocket squares are very inexpensive (sub $10?) and can work. If acquired in cotton or linen they can handle damsels in distress Pocket squares with hand-rolled edges and basic fabrics that are done very quickly have a nice look and will be more expensive but still should not be much more than $15 or so although you will often see these pocket squares for $35 plus... Note: you can make pocket squares very quickly that will be very nice but to make a beautiful pocket square with a perfectly balanced square and edges that are very tightly rolled (and not sewn on) requires seamstresses and tailors who work with a ruler by their side. and the patience to constantly be checking each pocket square as they are being made as well as quality control by a master pocket square maker. Off-site pocket square making under contract is somewhat less than an ideal way of making pocket squares - not to mention social and political concerns.... Mid range pocket squares with nicer fabrics and neater rolled edges will cost more and very often be just what the doctor ordered. Luxury pocket squares such as Hermes and others can be made from very beautiful prints often in limited editions or special luxury fabrics. As an example we make pocket squares from Atkinsons Royal Irish Poplin which has a wonderful texture and we are probably the only makers in the world using this fabric. Which in addition to being expensive fabric is very difficult to work with as the rolls are challenging because of the springiness. We will also use Fermo Fossati an artisanal luxury grenadine silk made slowly on old looms which is not so difficult to roll but very hard to sew and can take 2 hours for one pocket square. Both silks are available as bespoke pocket squares as are our other fabrics. The size and shape can be customized as well as the roll size and of course the fabric. We also are happy to talk about the size of your pocket or the type of silk that will work best for you as well as weave special silks for our clients at times. The talking about how your pocket squares will be made is what makes them bespoke. Bespoke everything is all about listening to me and making what the client wants - not about how the pattern is made. All of this for $25 to $60 with the point being that pocket squares are available at many different prices and if you look for brick and mortar sales or shop online you can find very beautiful pocket squares in a great variety of fabrics. Hermes and some other European makers have wonderful prints with many colors. Kent Wang has some antique silks, Four-in-Hand has some beautiful vintage silks, S. Godart has a wide selection of lovely linens. The best constructions will often come from small workshops which tend to be like great hidden restaurants - wonderful food but sometimes hard to find.
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As an example we make pocket squares from Atkinsons Royal Irish Poplin which has a wonderful texture and we are probably the only makers in the world using this fabric. Which in addition to being expensive fabric is very difficult to work with as the rolls are challenging because of the springiness.


D., are the two that you have up in your online store the only ones in stock for immediate shipping?

- B
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master: white, linen/cotton, TV fold.

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We all think we are masters in the beginning
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D., are the two that you have up in your online store the only ones in stock for immediate shipping? - B
B, We do not have any pocket squares currently available for immediate same day shipping. However, we can make any pocket square order typically within a day or two and we go to the post office 6 days a week. We moved from the rural countryside in Thailand last month to Bangkok and we are training new staff and we now have a good "just-in-time" system for our pocket squares. We have an interesting group of seamstresses. For example one woman used to make miniature doll clothes and another lady put diamonds on watches. Our cutter used to supervise a group of 20 cutters at an export factory. And all the ladies are enjoying the slower pace of a luxury business in a family business setting. In another 2 months or so we hope to have a similar quick turn-around for neckties, and we have many silks waiting in our silk room to be photographed and put on our web site. Most of the silks will be available as pocket squares - although you cannot always tell what is available on our website.
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Purchasing an expensive pocket square (unless you absolutely adore the design and can't find it anywhere else) seems silly to me.

That said I would have told you the same thing about suits a couple of years ago. SO basically my question is regarding what you get for your money. Is there some gain to superior construction that benefits an accessory that receives absolutely NO wear and tear? Noone touches it so quality silk shouldn't matter.

For that matter what does the board think of going to straight up handkerchiefs? If well ironed wouldn't they function much the same? I've always romanticized the idea of being as old school and practical with my accessories as possible, plus it would be pretty amazing to whip out a linen handkerchief for a crying woman.

I did this for close to 20 years - I bought white cotton handkerchiefs, kept one in my breast pocket, one in my pants pocket. if I needed to lend or give one to a lady, I used the one in my breast pocket, and that was then rotated into the pants pocket group, and I fresh one would be used in my breast pocket.

my wife just told me, a few months ago, that she thought I should have "real" pocket squares. so, yeah, its a good, old school system. but it may be frowned upon
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lately my psq collection has been augmented w/bizzocchi; got 7 goodins' for < $20/ea when scot&co went dead ..w/bizzocchi u get 2 for 1 since they a r self evidently reversable..may i add that no matter how flimsy or weak a psq may be; if u fold it w/a technique that utilizes the entire inner sanctum of the pocket that holds it, the fold structure &/or fabric friction usually keeps the slip/fallout factor low...also , the adage : " wear one for show and carry one to blow",..i 've added : "and pack a new cheap white one to let go" . so when the gal cries, or what ever else she needs to excrete there won't be hesitation on her part w/regard to touching a funky cloth, ...and as for her residue (unless some wanted rare & exoctic vodoo butter is collected) she can keep the cloth knowing yr not parsimonious
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What is the provenance of each of the items in this most tastefully constructed photo?

- Tiffany keychain in sterling with a red enameled apple

- Valextra breast pocket wallet

- Black enameled S. T. DuPont Orpheo/Olympio large fountain pen

- Kieselstein-Cord cufflinks in sterling (mismatched from two sets, which I often do)

- Elsa Peretti for Tiffany money clip in sterling

- Tiffany Etoile wedding band in platinum (and yes, a bunch of diamonds)

- A. Lange & Söhne Saxonia (generation I) in white gold, midnight blue face

- All sitting on an RLPL madder pocket square


- B
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- B

Love the ST Dupont and the Lange 1. This is a great photo.

Cheers
Gaz
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B, Looking at your photo more closely I am starting to see the small details and enjoying your collection. I am curious about the money clip as it looks elegant and well cared for do you have any problems with tarnish, or does regular use keep the clip in good condition? Also your madder pocket square is really nice. I am working on a madder silk now and I was thinking of a neck tie focus for the pattern but now I am also wondering about what would work well as a pocket square.
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B,

Looking at your photo more closely I am starting to see the small details and enjoying your collection.

I am curious about the money clip as it looks elegant and well cared for do you have any problems with tarnish, or does regular use keep the clip in good condition?

Also your madder pocket square is really nice. I am working on a madder silk now and I was thinking of a neck tie focus for the pattern but now I am also wondering about what would work well as a pocket square.

Thank you, D.

I have no issues with tarnish on the sterling items, other than nice patination from use.

That's an English madder on the RLPL square...since there are not nearly enough quality madder squares, it would be fantastic if you offered some.

BTW, I am delighted with those 6-fold grenadines that you made up for me...thank you.

- B
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Do you have a larger photo? I think it would make a nice desktop wallpaper.

You're kidding, right? This is the largest online version of the photograph.


- B
post #45 of 118
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Originally Posted by BostonRussell View Post
Purchasing an expensive pocket square (unless you absolutely adore the design and can't find it anywhere else) seems silly to me.

That said I would have told you the same thing about suits a couple of years ago. SO basically my question is regarding what you get for your money. Is there some gain to superior construction that benefits an accessory that receives absolutely NO wear and tear? Noone touches it so quality silk shouldn't matter.

For that matter what does the board think of going to straight up handkerchiefs? If well ironed wouldn't they function much the same? I've always romanticized the idea of being as old school and practical with my accessories as possible, plus it would be pretty amazing to whip out a linen handkerchief for a crying woman.

How much is expensive for you ?

Why bothering with ironing when a good quality hank will unwrink by itfelf ?

Why paying more :
- for nice material that will not be ruined if yiu wash it in water
- for original design
- for hand stitched and rolled edges = compulsory
- a pocket can last all your life, so the price per year is low
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