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iammatt

I expect more love from you about AiP.



- B
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Great question, B. For clothes I make the distinction between a brand (Hermes, JL Paris, Toyota/Lexus/Ferrari, Sulka, Patek) and a single person's product (Steed, April in Paris), in the same way that I think eating at Spice Market or Vong is different from eating where I can see Jean Georges in the kitchen. Although company philosophy and identity, especially if dictated and overseen by one person, is paramount - I tend to like products that I can have some specificity in. For example, instead of a Tom Ford suit made for X, a suit made for X by So and So. Subtle, but the distinction is there. - M
Yes, Vox, I thought you were referring to brands (company using economies of scale and mass marketing), as opposed to single craftsmen.
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Although company philosophy and identity, especially if dictated and overseen by one person, is paramount - I tend to like products that I can have some specificity in. For example, instead of a Tom Ford suit made for X, a suit made for X by So and So. Subtle, but the distinction is there.

- M

That's a interesting point. I guess I am open to the idea that a group of people can maintain a concept of excellence. I have no problem if this is tempered with realistic constraints.

That's why I started my list with Alden, since I believe they have remained true to their standards.

I think that products of this type, even if not the very best, can still be satisfying.


- B
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Yes, Vox, I thought you were referring to brands (company using economies of scale and mass marketing), as opposed to single craftsmen.

I might be interesting to include both...by pitting one category against the other, I think we might come up with some common criteria.


- B
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Blue Note Records

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Original pressing Impulse.


- B

Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab


Not the current company, but the one that existed in the late 1970' through the 1990's who had their LPs pressed by JVC in Japan. They made LPs, which are inherently noisy and funky, that are almost silent and quite consistent. These days people are paying over $1000 for sealed copies of MFSL UHQR copies of Dark Side of the Moon.
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Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab


Not the current company, but the one that existed in the late 1970' through the 1990's who had their LPs pressed by JVC in Japan. They made LPs, which are inherently noisy and funky, that are almost silent and quite consistent. These days people are paying over $1000 for sealed copies of MFSL UHQR copies of Dark Side of the Moon.

MFSL, even in the old days, could also be somewhat inconsistent on the mastering. I'd say DCC was generally more consistent quality-wise.
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These days people are paying over $1000 for sealed copies of MFSL UHQR copies of Dark Side of the Moon.

No shit? I have that, and a full MF Beatles set.

Their sonics are suspect, though.

- B
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I expect more love from you about AiP.



- B
I love Bea. What more could you want?
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Interesting.

I would put Ferrari first when it comes to cars, though.


- B

ferrari, really? a quick flip through ferrarilife or maseratilife shows examples of drips and runs in paint, misaligned bumpers and doors, malfunctioning door switches, bubbling dashes...

i remember reading that some members, when ordering cars, specifically ask for cars assembled before the lunch break, since wine is freely served during lunch at the factory, haha.
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ferrari, really? a quick flip through ferrarilife or maseratilife shows examples of drips and runs in paint, misaligned bumpers and doors, malfunctioning door switches, bubbling dashes...

i remember reading that some members, when ordering cars, specifically ask for cars assembled before the lunch break, since wine is freely served during lunch at the factory, haha.

There's a car made for you. It's called the Prius.


- B
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I love Bea. What more could you want?

I envy your direct access.

I'm trying to decide what to start with.


- B
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Apple Computer.

The feel, look and quality of the products is excellent. I also give them credit for their innovative nature and ability to do so much with so little (space, buttons, etc.). Just look at the new MacBook, the case is machined from a solid piece from aluminum so its stronger, and lighter because less screws are needed to hold it all together.
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Great choice.


- B
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That's why I started my list with Alden, since I believe they have remained true to their standards.

I think that products of this type, even if not the very best, can still be satisfying.

- B

Yet another great point, very pertinent to what I see on SF. The fundamental question is 'which brand's/maker's standards does the consumer find satisfying, or enough?'

What is "satisfying" qualitative-wise to someone is very much dependent on what their level of "enough quality" is. For example, Mr. Fan's "enough" for shirts is Mattuozo, while others might be Jantzen.

And that's just with the starting point of quality, let alone aesthetic. As my daughter used to repeat after me, 'Booty (Beauty) is in the eye of the beholder!" I've chosen aesthetic over absolute best quality many times, as long as the level of quality was "enough."

- M
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