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post #31 of 65
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For a choice of clothing in any season: 50 pocket squares
Will, Might I ask if these are generally white linen or cotton and, further, are you tending to prefer this type of square over the printed silk?
post #32 of 65
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i wash my clothes after each wearing. the only exception to this is jeans, which i might wear 2 or 3 times between washings, assuming i wasn't running around in them. nationality came up in this thread because americans have a perception that french people rarely bathe. there's also a rumour that germans wear the same underwear for a week before washing it. perhaps some of the european members can enlighten us.
Really sad perceptions, in my view. I know Europeans also have some similarly wrong perceptions of Americans (And this can include America as a whole continent, OK?). I will not comment on them.
post #33 of 65
The number of clothing items we think we "need" seems to grow the older we get, perhaps with a decline late in life (60s, 70s, etc.). When I got out of college and worked as a legal assistant in a law firm, I got by on 3 suits, two pair of black dress shoes, one pair of brown loafers, perhaps 20 mostly hand-me-down-from-dad ties, and probably 10 dress shirts -- maybe 6 plain white, 2 white with stripes and 2 light blue. Now, in my 30s, I can't imagine getting by on such a small selection. Sure, one can generally "get by" just fine on a basic set of 2-3 suits, 8 dress shirts, 15 ties, etc., but it gets old quickly and the clothes obviously wear out much quicker.
post #34 of 65
How many undershirts (of each style) and pairs of underwear (of each style) do you think someone should own?
post #35 of 65
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The number of clothing items we think we "need" seems to grow the older we get, perhaps with a decline late in life (60s, 70s, etc.).  When I got out of college and worked as a legal assistant in a law firm, I got by on 3 suits, two pair of black dress shoes, one pair of brown loafers, perhaps 20 mostly hand-me-down-from-dad ties, and probably 10 dress shirts -- maybe 6 plain white, 2 white with stripes and 2 light blue.  Now, in my 30s, I can't imagine getting by on such a small selection.  Sure, one can generally "get by" just fine on a basic set of 2-3 suits, 8 dress shirts, 15 ties, etc., but it gets old quickly and the clothes obviously wear out much quicker.
It is normal because young you have no money and you do not know how long last a suit.
post #36 of 65
I find this thread ridiculous and neither here nor there. What Ernest seemed to be asking is what the BARE MINIMUM is, not what your accumulated closet should look like after 20+ years of collecting nice things. Let's pretend that we are dressing a naked man for work here, and that he has to wear a suit every day, and that he wants some variation in his wardrobe, but does not want to go into debt. Let us also assume that he lives in a place that has true seasons. Suits -- 10 (2 summer, 3 "four season," 3 "three season," 2 true winter) Sportcoats -- (Optional in my opinion, and more of a "luxury" or unnecessary purchase than suits, as they are actually LESS versatile in a business formal environment) 4 (1 blue blazer, 1 heavier tweed, etc., 1 light weight summer, 1 miscellaneous) Shirts -- 20 (5 button down, 15 plain collar. Preferably six to seven in solid colors, 9 or 10 in stripes of some sort, 4 to 5 in check) Ties -- 20 really sharp ones Shoes -- 5 pair (3 in various shades/styles of brown, and 2 in different styles of black. Feel free to substitue a cordovan leather for calf for either the black or one of the browns. Make sure that you have at least 3 balmorals. Skip the loafers). Socks -- 15 pair of over the calf socks that match your suits. Odd Trousers -- 10 (2 winter, 3 three season flannel, 3 four season, 2 lightweight summer). Belts -- 3 belts is plenty Sweaters -- 8 or 9 is sufficient (I'd go with 5 cashmere or merinos, 2 cottons, and 2 silk blend. Styling is up to you. I prefer V-necks for the office). Coats -- 2 topcoats, 1 raincoat, 2 car coats Once you have these items, you can definitely survive as the best dressed man in the office. Build up slowly over time, not because you "need to," but because you can.
post #37 of 65
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2 summer, 3 "four season," 3 "three season," 2 true winter
What is the difference between a 3 season and a 4 season? Don't you think it is a little to much to make difference between these 2 ones in a minimum wardrobe?
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Sportcoats -- (Optional in my opinion, and more of a "luxury" or unnecessary purchase than suits, as they are actually LESS versatile in a business formal environment)  
I would say less than optional in business = useless
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Shirts -- 20 (5 button down, 15 plain collar.  Preferably six to seven in solid colors, 9 or 10 in stripes of some sort, 4 to 5 in check)
What are doing button down collar and check in a business wardrobe (all the more that it is the minimum one.)? You put jumpers in a business wardrobe but not cufflinks? No braces? More jumper than shoes? But if you consider all the wardrobe, 8 jumpers seems realistic.
post #38 of 65
Sorry, forgot about cufflinks. To be honest, a pair of silver links and five pair of silk knots would be my recommendation for a minimum. And that's even assuming you are buying french cuff shirts. More jumpers than shoes? Yes -- sweaters wear out faster and are more "seasonal" than shoes (meaning I'd rather wear a silk/cashmere blend in the spring, and save my cashmere and merino for fall and winter). I agree with you on sportcoats -- close to useless for business formal. Odd trousers you could even pair down to 3 or 4 pair if you really are wearing a suit every day. I think there is a difference between a 3 season and 4 season suit -- enough so that I'd get a certain amount of both.
post #39 of 65
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More jumpers than shoes?  Yes -- sweaters wear out faster and are more "seasonal" than shoes (meaning I'd rather wear a silk/cashmere blend in the spring, and save my cashmere and merino for fall and winter).   I agree with you on sportcoats -- close to useless for business formal. Odd trousers you could even pair down to 3 or 4 pair if you really are wearing a suit every day.   I think there is a difference between a 3 season and 4 season suit -- enough so that I'd get a certain amount of both.
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Odd trousers you could even pair down to 3 or 4 pair if you really are wearing a suit every day.
As close to useless as sport jackets; aren't they? Same for jumpers. You will not wear a jumper in business. How do you see the difference? I guess it is not easy.
post #40 of 65
3 suits. 1 grey, one navy, one charcoal. 10 shirts. 2 pairs of shoes. one black, one brown. 10 ties. a different one for each business day of two weeks. 2 belts. one black, one brown. Anything beyond that is just unnecessary luxury.
post #41 of 65
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(Will @ Feb. 20 2005,17:35) For a choice of clothing in any season: 50 pocket squares
Will, Might I ask if these are generally white linen or cotton and, further, are you tending to prefer this type of square over the printed silk?
White linen, white linen with colored borders, colored linens, and colored cashmeres to wear with shiny neckties. Silk squares to wear with matte neckties. Perhaps one square for every three or four neckties since there are many days when only white linen is appropriate when wearing a white collared shirt for example.
post #42 of 65
Brian, That's not enough suits if you are wearing one every day, you run into issues with dry cleaning, etc... and generally you want to take issues with potential food accidents, etc. into account. I would set 5 as the absolute minimum for someone who is wearing a suit each day. My min wardrobe would be something like the following: 8 suits: 2 navy solid, 1 navy pinstripe 2 charcoal solid, 1 charcoal pinstripe 1 dark medium gray solid, 1 dark medium gray pinstripe 24 shirts: various colors 4 shoes: 1 black captoe, 1 black plaintoe, 1 brown captoe, 1 brown plaintoe 4 belts: (2 black, 2 brown) 15 ties (various colors)
post #43 of 65
My business wardrobe generally consists of: 6 quality suits 20-25 good dress shirts 2 blazers (one navy, one brown) 3-5 cashmere sweaters 5-7 pairs of trousers 4 pairs of dress shoes a growing collection of ties (currently around 250) 5 pairs of cufflinks I've always felt that to own more than 6 suits decreases the quality of the wardrobe overall, as I tend to replace suits when necessary, keeping a well-balanced mix of old and new. I can stagger my spending and buy better suits that way. I don't like to own a quality suit that I will wear less (or more) often than once every 8 days. I'm one of those obsessive-compulsive kind of freaks who likes things in a specific pattern, and an 8-day rotation is my pattern. I also NEVER wear the same pants, shirt, shoes or even hat two days in a row - it makes me feel dirty.
post #44 of 65
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How many of these elements should somebody wearing a suit every days own* ? 1) Ties?  My reply = 40 2) Suits? 10 3) shoes? 6 4) shirts? 15 5) cufflinks? 3 6) braces? 4 7) belts? 1 8) watches? 2 9) coat ? 2 10) mac ? 1 * not to be wearing the same clothes all the time and not to wear out them in a short time.
14 suits 24 shirts 7 pairs shoes 12 ties 2 coats 1 Burberry As desired, belts braces, et al. * why not worn at same time?
post #45 of 65
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How many of these elements should somebody wearing a suit every days own* ? 1) Ties?  My reply = 40 2) Suits? 10 3) shoes? 6 4) shirts? 15 5) cufflinks? 3 6) braces? 4 7) belts? 1 8) watches? 2 9) coat ? 2 10) mac ? 1 * not to be wearing the same clothes all the time and not to wear out them in a short time.
My own personal idea about an appropiate minimum: 1) Ties? 1,255 2) Suits? 202 3) shoes? 192 4) shirts? 517 (including 212 that are 1/2" too small in case you lose weight) 5) cufflinks? 6 6) braces? 29 7) belts? 42 8) watches? 9 9) topcoats? 8 10) macs? 5 (4 Burberry, including two trench) 11) sportcoats? 198
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