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post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post
I fucking hate dentists. They and their profession and their rates are fucking bullshit. Hmm, my insurance that costs thousands of dollars a year doesn't cover dental??? Nice, that root cannal is a good ass fucking to the tune of $4,000.

4000 for a single toothed root canal? if this doesn't include a crown, that is outrageous and i would shop around for a better price. even with the crown, that is quite expensive. just my opinion.

i've met patients for the first time that tell me "no offensive but i hate dentists". wtf am i supposed to say to that and what does that say about yourself? how do you know that i'm gonna be as horrible as you think when you haven't ever met me? thanks for judging me before you know anything about me and the quality of my work. ultimately, it's your prerogative to get your teeth cleaned/filled/fixed, but you have no one else to blame except yourself when you start getting tooth pain. it's not our fault that the mouth is an extremely sensitive area that is filled with bacteria (more bacteria than any other place in the body, including the orifice at the other end).
post #17 of 24
How can it be a small cavity if it caused your tooth to fracture?
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post
I fucking hate dentists. They and their profession and their rates are fucking bullshit. Hmm, my insurance that costs thousands of dollars a year doesn't cover dental??? Nice, that root cannal is a good ass fucking to the tune of $4,000.

That's not nice. They work very hard to be where they are at; don't think of it as anything different than a medical specialty.

Dental insurance is generally inexpensive compared to medical insurance. I don't know why you would insult both the professionals and their profession due to a bad experience. Sounds like you have an axe to grind.
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by clubbyjones View Post
That's not nice. They work very hard to be where they are at; don't think of it as anything different than a medical specialty.

Dental insurance is generally inexpensive compared to medical insurance. I don't know why you would insult both the professionals and their profession due to a bad experience. Sounds like you have an axe to grind.

It's actually pretty expensive to add it to my family plan and we already get some insurance through a discount. I insult the profession because of the many, many dentists I've used, they've almost done really poor/incompetent work that ended up costing me a ton in the long run. I've had fillings fall out, dentists miss decay, dentists screw up orthodontia work (including one horrible incident when I was 14 and a loose wire ended up lacerating my cheek so badly I still have scars to this day).

I'd love to meet a cheap, affordable dentist.
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by Edward Appleby View Post
How can it be a small cavity if it caused your tooth to fracture?

Its the other guy's tooth that fractured, mine just had a small chip of the filling pop out..
post #21 of 24
Thread Starter 
So I went to this new dentist today, and she found that the filling had not cracked/popped out again after all. She told me that my grinding is causing the symptoms of sensitivity to cold and pressure, and that it is likely that the more recently filled tooth is where I am feeling the sensation since my bite may have been slightly affected the last time the other guy did the filling. She was kind enough to fit me with a $300 device that I snap to my front teeth to prevent grinding.

In all honesty, I think she was upfront with me, since if she wanted to ream me, she could have told me that it had indeed cracked, and charged me to fill it again. I am assuming I got the lesser of two evils.
post #22 of 24
Just curious - did you already know that you were grinding your teeth?

Symptoms include:
sore, tired jaw in the morning
tenderness in the gums
sore cheek where your wife slaps you to stop that hideous racket!
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
Just curious - did you already know that you were grinding your teeth?

Symptoms include:
sore, tired jaw in the morning
tenderness in the gums
sore cheek where your wife slaps you to stop that hideous racket!



Actually, dentists have been warning me for years, but I've always ignored them because it hasn't been noticeable to me (I mean, my teeth are not worn down to stumps or anything), and I figured I would not want to wear whatever torture device it would entail to correct the problem. None of those symptoms either, except the last one of course..
post #24 of 24
Since this is my occupation I thought I would add my two cents:
1. Determining whether you have received concientious or mediocre dental care based on an unpleasant experience after the event is sometimes not as straightforward as one might wish for or expect. Generally the work I do is not within the direct view of the person I am performing it for, and is not felt by him or her if I have give that person adequate anaesthesia (freezing). Also, some of the problems related to poor technique (over-cutting a tooth, missing a secondary canal in root-canal treatment, or leaving a sigificant gap between a crown and the supporting tooth, generally create long-term problems rather than right away, when things may feel quite normal (well, at least for a while). So, how can you get a feel for quality care?
1. If you ask a staff member privately, does she or he attend the same practice as a patient? Do they refer their family?
2. Does the dentist show you the problem directly with a mirror or intraoral video camera, show or offer to show you the "work in progress" ("....here is that area of decay now that it has been exposed, here is the partial tooth fracture, here is the abnormal tissue,etc"), then show you the completed filling or crown preparation, pointing out the details?
3. Are you offered upfront a description of all the generally-acceptable possible choices to repair a tooth, giving the range of costs, pros and cons of each choice, including estimated longevity of each option (which will vary according to the material chosen and the size of the problem) or is it "office policy" to exclude some treatment choices?
4. How is the determination made that a tooth requires root canal treatment? One common way is when the decay removal reaches the pulp ("nerve"), causing enough bleeding that the dentist cannot quickly stop it with a medicated dressing on top. This can be demonstrated with a mirror.
How about the sore tooth or generalized facial pain? Testing each tooth individually in the general area (both top and bottom) with an application of ice or a large cotton pellet drenched in refridgerent is a more reliable test than an x-ray that sometimes may not show the presence of a dead tooth.
5. Finally, two admittedly personal suggestions to help you find a concientious dentist in a community you are new to;
i) contact one or more periodontists ("gum specialists") as close to your area as you can find and ask for names of good restorative dentists. Periodontists look after the same patients for years so they see restorations being updated over time by the referring dentists and get a feel for who is doing what and how well.
ii) consider trying a dentist who does gold inlay work. You may HATE the thought of gold in your mouth ("...who do you think I am, Doc, Captain Jack Sparrow?"),or not have the finances for it, and I'm not even suggesting you have it done for ANY of your teeth, ...even though that's all I have in my mouth. Gold inlays are bloody hard to do well, take much more chairtime to create than a full porcelain crown, and for a smaller fee and are accepted by far,far fewer patients than I make bleaching trays for, for instance. What I do strongly believe is that dentists who can turn out a nice gold inlay have above-average hand skills that will show in whatever other procedure they do, and are generally idealistic about preserving as much of your tooth as they can in any given circumstance.
Hope this helps. Now, off to bed to get ready for another day of "assembling watches while people spit in my face" (metaphorically).
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