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Originally Posted by PorterInjax View Post

I haven't been able to try on any LHS's in shell but like the comment above, think I may pull the trigger. A few questions that I would be grateful on getting replies: I'm a 9D Plaze, 9D Grant and about a 8.75 on Barrie. Can anyone give sizing rev's? Also, what retailers typically carry them? Would love to get a pair in Ravello but can see getting use out of cigar or #8 also. Is the Brooks Bros model also on the Van last? Thanks in advance

Both the standard lined LHS (like the 986) and the Brooks unlined version are made on the van last. The key to LHS sizing is the vamp - it is quite low. Some folks with a higher instep cannot find a good fit at all so be aware that is a very real possibility. Go to Brooks and try their unlined LHS and experiment with widths as well. Sizing loafers in general is difficult because you want it to be tight enough that the heel won't slip but the sole needs to have been broken in a bit before that can happen. With a new unbending sole it can dig into your heel and make it seem like you have the wrong size. In my experience, you want a very snug fit that is not constricting, as the LHS will loosen up a bit as the sole breaks in. If you go too large then they will flop as you walk once they have been broken in. I wear a 8.5 in both van and barrie with the barrie feeling just a bit more spacious in the toe.

I have 4 pair of LHS and the color 8 are by far the most useful - great with khakis and wool trousers in all shades of gray. I think cigar is OK, but either ravello or whiskey would be my choice for a second pair. I would also strongly consider snuff suede, which are by far my most complemented shoes. I got my ravellos from Sherman Brothers but I know Shoemart carries all 3 exotic LHS colors as well.

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Thanks Dr. D, that's helpful. Will hit Brooks Brothers on Saturday or Sunday to try a couple of different sizes on.
post #74778 of 91297
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Both the standard lined LHS (like the 986) and the Brooks unlined version are made on the van last. The key to LHS sizing is the vamp - it is quite low. Some folks with a higher instep cannot find a good fit at all so be aware that is a very real possibility. Go to Brooks and try their unlined LHS and experiment with widths as well. Sizing loafers in general is difficult because you want it to be tight enough that the heel won't slip but the sole needs to have been broken in a bit before that can happen. With a new unbending sole it can dig into your heel and make it seem like you have the wrong size. In my experience, you want a very snug fit that is not constricting, as the LHS will loosen up a bit as the sole breaks in. If you go too large then they will flop as you walk once they have been broken in. I wear a 8.5 in both van and barrie with the barrie feeling just a bit more spacious in the toe.
I have 4 pair of LHS and the color 8 are by far the most useful - great with khakis and wool trousers in all shades of gray. I think cigar is OK, but either ravello or whiskey would be my choice for a second pair. I would also strongly consider snuff suede, which are by far my most complemented shoes. I got my ravellos from Sherman Brothers but I know Shoemart carries all 3 exotic LHS colors as well.

Agreed that the snuff LHS is a nice option.
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Originally Posted by PorterInjax View Post

Thanks Dr. D, that's helpful. Will hit Brooks Brothers on Saturday or Sunday to try a couple of different sizes on.

Note that many here find the BB unlined LHS to fit one size smaller in width than the lined version (986, etc.).
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Originally Posted by PorterInjax View Post

Thanks Dr. D, that's helpful. Will hit Brooks Brothers on Saturday or Sunday to try a couple of different sizes on.

I'm basing this on my sample space of one, but the unlined LHS they sell at BB fits slightly tighter than the same size lined ones.

Also the BB corporate discount event (30%) is happening 3/20. Cordovan has been included in the past.
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Originally Posted by Shanil View Post
 

Think it's time I add another shoe to my collection and came up with a sizing query. Unfortunately, I live too far from a retailer to try anything out.

 

My current favorite pair is the cigar shell captoe boot on the Grant last (size:8D). Fine overall fit and just a tad tight in the toe area. I've been looking at Barrie last shell shoes for my next buy and was wondering if I should still size down half a size? I recall reading that Barrie and Grant are very similar in length, with the former being a bit wider. Perhaps an 8D Barrie would give me that extra bit of space in the toebox and not warrant sizing down?

 

Appreciate any feedback from you experienced folk!

 

Bumping for some insight!

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Originally Posted by Shanil View Post

Think it's time I add another shoe to my collection and came up with a sizing query. Unfortunately, I live too far from a retailer to try anything out.

My current favorite pair is the cigar shell captoe boot on the Grant last (size:8D). Fine overall fit and just a tad tight in the toe area. I've been looking at Barrie last shell shoes for my next buy and was wondering if I should still size down half a size? I recall reading that Barrie and Grant are very similar in length, with the former being a bit wider. Perhaps an 8D Barrie would give me that extra bit of space in the toebox and not warrant sizing down?

Appreciate any feedback from you experienced folk!

If the Grant last is tight in the toe box, I would probably not size down if I were you. What shoe are you considering? I personally size different for PTBs than I do for most other Barrie styles, just to reduce rolls. Regardless, I would work with a reputable dealer and carefully try them out on carpet. :-)

I hope that others interject thoughts as I can't speak to the grant last as I don't own anything on it yet.
post #74782 of 91297
The wait is end!
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Ravello Chukka with his friends
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Now with his family biggrin.gif
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Thanks a bunch! SF troops!!
post #74783 of 91297
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

Note that many here find the BB unlined LHS to fit one size smaller in width than the lined version (986, etc.).

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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

I'm basing this on my sample space of one, but the unlined LHS they sell at BB fits slightly tighter than the same size lined ones.

In my experience (2 pair Brooks unlined, 1 pair ravello lined, 1 pair snuff unlined with flex sole) I take the same size and width for them all. However, the lined version is much tighter across the vamp and pushes down on the top of my foot, and this was very pronounced when they were new. Until they broke in and the sole started to flex (about 20 wearings), the lined LHS made my feet sore to wear for an entire day. I found this vamp pressure to be present on 2 other pairs of lined LHS that I tried on at Shoemart as well. Brooks' unlined version were more comfortable from the start and after 2-3 wearings they were extremely comfortable. The flex sole LHS was great straight from the box on the first wear - zero break in was needed.

Assuming you can find a good fit, I would follow Zippyh's advice and grab some color 8 from Brooks' sale for $455 and see how they work for you in real life. Use Mac's break-in method on the carpet at home and make sure they are comfortable. Then you can branch out into the various colors of lined LHS once you have established your baseline fit for the van last. I think it is the most frustrating last that Alden uses so be sure you can live with the fit before you invest your time and money hunting for the rare ones. Good luck!
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Ravello today in the morning sun.

 

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I'm sending the CXL chukkas back. They do rub my pinky toe a bit where I could see it being an issue over a long day and I was getting heel slippage with them. It's so strange how the same shoe with various materials fits slightly differently.

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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The wait is end!
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Ravello Chukka with his friends
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Now with his family biggrin.gif
A900509E-A629-489E-80FD-A7F156DEE7CE_zpsrshnwfhc.jpg

Thanks a bunch! SF troops!!

Very nice setup! Enjoy your Chukkas.
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Ravello today in the morning sun.



Looking good.
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Originally Posted by Dr. D View Post



In my experience (2 pair Brooks unlined, 1 pair ravello lined, 1 pair snuff unlined with flex sole) I take the same size and width for them all. However, the lined version is much tighter across the vamp and pushes down on the top of my foot, and this was very pronounced when they were new. Until they broke in and the sole started to flex (about 20 wearings), the lined LHS made my feet sore to wear for an entire day. I found this vamp pressure to be present on 2 other pairs of lined LHS that I tried on at Shoemart as well. Brooks' unlined version were more comfortable from the start and after 2-3 wearings they were extremely comfortable. The flex sole LHS was great straight from the box on the first wear - zero break in was needed.

Assuming you can find a good fit, I would follow Zippyh's advice and grab some color 8 from Brooks' sale for $455 and see how they work for you in real life. Use Mac's break-in method on the carpet at home and make sure they are comfortable. Then you can branch out into the various colors of lined LHS once you have established your baseline fit for the van last. I think it is the most frustrating last that Alden uses so be sure you can live with the fit before you invest your time and money hunting for the rare ones. Good luck!


I have found this to be true as well.

 

I'm certainly going to bite the bullet and get those Unlined LHS in the next corporate sale.

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Originally Posted by PeterL View Post
 

Try enter the promo code then put your zip code to Estimated Tax. 

 

 

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My method was add the LWB to my cart, then put in the code. It gave me the error that the code would only work after putting in the right form of payment. But I just clicked to the next page where you input your address and all that and the sale price was what was showing. I just kept going through the process and it all went through.

 

thanks for the tips. got the code to work:

 

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Broke out the whiskey this morning:


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