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for as much flak as the calif alden dealer gets for his return policy (adam?) atleast I think I've read he's fairly thorough with his quality control.
at the end of the day, we're talking about shoes that very well will get scuffed/scraped/beat 5 minutes out the house.. but these are $500+ shoes.. not $50 DSWs..
I cannot speak to UnionMade's quality control, but I can say that UnionMade is responsive and take steps to remedy issues.
Edited by blackboard_knowledge - 1/29/14 at 10:11am
There has to be a tipping point, I just don't know what that point would be. I remember having this conversation when Alden cordovans were in the $500s, yet here we are doing the same thing (with perhaps more quality issues) +$200 later.
My unfortunate guess is that we are still below the threshold for many people on here. In fact, I am sort of surprised that there are not more people manipulating the system and trying to resell rare pairs at a major premium. Please no one get any ideas:D
imo, there are no shortage, atleast on ebay.
im not sure what styleforum rules are, but someone posting on here (either in this thread, or in their sig) an 'inflated' amount for a rare pair of shoes deserves any response other members feel appropriate. let the market establish value, but also let the market 'dictate' discussion of said value.
just my .02c, sent from a far corner of the web where I typically wait for sales for my aldens lol
I cannot speak to UnionMade's quality control --I have had problems with my orders, but as someone accurately stated, Alden is culpable as well-- but I can say that Adam and UnionMade are responsive and take steps to remedy issues.
My comment before was merely identifying a trend regarding these type of posts seeming to reference UnionMade --I am a statistician-- and was not meant to stir the pot.
my apologies. my post was not intended to stir the pot. I have not had the pleasure of doing business with Adam, mainly as he admitted to rarely ordering above sz11 IIRC
I have also no skin in the game concerning Unionmade. They are another vendor I've yet to purchase from (mainly as their shell options dont appeal to me typically).
I agree that a $25/year increase makes it seem like in a few years, aldens will be very expensive. I am not sure how other brands are increasing (or not) their prices in respect to this, but if you consider inflation to average around 4%, and that the average shell boot/shoe costs around $650, you get $26 annually for inflation. It seems hard to swallow that in 2024, shell will cost > $1000, but everything in 2024 will cost more.
Edit: I do also agree though, if the price of Alden starts to creep up towards Carmina, and other name brands producing nice shells, then there are fewer and fewer Aldens that would be attractive at that price. I would however, choose a lot of Alden boot make ups over other companies; Alden makes the best boots (in terms of looks, not quality control) in the world, in my opinion.
feeling the same way, I grabbed the C&J McCallum (brown shell chukka) from RL last month. much sleeker than the alden chukka (barrie or plaza), but with my *only* foray into C&J, im plenty disappointed in the finishing. i might just be skewed by aldens finishing, but for a shoe that RL listed on their website for $1300 (IIRC), I anticipated them being fairly flawless
price wise, I was in for $570ish with the discounts offered by RL at the time, so slightly cheaper than cigar chukkas from a typical vendor (my cigar barrie chukkas came from O'Connells for $600 IIRC a yr or so ago)
great looking boots! Congrats!
While I have seen some "exotics" go for surprising levels I am hopeful this will not become a trend. It is a lot of effort to get your hands on certain models in the first place, then when you factor in taxes, shipping and seller fees most people would be lucky to clear a Benjamin. That seems like a tough way to make $100 not to mention the time spent answering bidder questions on Barrie sizing lol.
Nice...January as projected. I'm a couple down on the list so my chances are slim. Some photos from the previous run have been posted if you search. I imagine these will be much darker.
I was debating getting in on the Leffot pre order Dover shoe which I really like but ultimately decided to go with the 990ptb.
I think the commando sole would be really cool with it and was gonna go with that. J gilbert has that make but they want $695. I can find the stock 990 on double leather for $645.. debating if its worth the extra price.
From peoples personal experience will the commando soled 990 look chunkier or any different from a stock 990 from a top or side view? I think the commando would be cool if it was a small aesthetic difference but didnt affect the overall look of the shoe. I wear my Aldens with pretty much only jeans and chinos so not too concerned with them being formal enough.
I never owned a commando but I have a Alden cordovan boot on crepe sole and it seems like that could be replaced cheaper and more easily before it hits the wooden sole portion (sorry not familiar with the correct names). Any truth to this or replacing a leather sole and commando is pretty much equal.
thanks for any feedback guy. A lot to learn
I seem to keep buying laces that look like the Alden ones on the web but when I receive them they are all different to the point that I keep going back to the Alden's. Rather than looking for imitations, it would be great if I could the same lace Ina longer version.
As a newbie, I was really anxious to purchase the AF18 chukka from Adam/AoC. It was almost as if he was trying to dissuade me from purchasing the shoes, which I found odd and a little annoying. Turns out he was simply trying to ensure that I would be 100% satisfied with my purchase. Looking back on it, I appreciate the fact that he was as concerned with me as a customer as he was in making a sale. Since then, I have made close to a half dozen new Alden purchases and the AoC chukka's were the only pair that were blemish-free. It was obvious that Adam inspected my shoes before sending them and I would not hesitate to purchase from him again.
The really interesting thing is that he was trying to ensure that I understood how Barrie sizing works (which I admitingly did not). I loved the shoes but after about 10-15 wears, became dissatisfied with the fit. They are now on the bay.
Turns out that Adam was right after all.