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Suck it up young Spiffster!

Alden 101 is in fact a prerequisite for American Pedal History.  The good thing though, is that AP History will fulfill your core writing requirement!

Glad to hear it. Otherwise, I would have petitioned to be added to the class roster on the basis of having accrued the minimum number of Alden basics: an Indy boot, several lwb's, PTBs and an lhs. Hoping I get to tassels during the second semester.

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Color #8 NST blucher, grant black shell cap toe boots for me. No idea why but I am enthralled with the NS in #8.
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I'd be annoyed too as a customer, it's just funny that all of the anger is directed at UM.

Yes it's Alden's fault but both companies should check the product before it leaves. UnionMade response to me was.. That is how Alden's are. The can send them to Alden and see what they say but UnionMade does not see any issue here.
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Yes it's Alden's fault but both companies should check the product before it leaves. UnionMade response to me was.. That is how Alden's are. The can send them to Alden and see what they say but UnionMade does not see any issue here.

 

ouch.

 

for as much flak as the calif alden dealer gets for his return policy (adam?) atleast I think I've read he's fairly thorough with his quality control.

 

at the end of the day, we're talking about shoes that very well will get scuffed/scraped/beat 5 minutes out the house.. but these are $500+ shoes.. not $50 DSWs..

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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I would say its a 60/40 split. Alden QC shouldn't have shipped it. UM should have inspected their product particularly when the customer complaints began rolling in. Sad state of affairs for sure.

Best part is I specifically asked Ellen to check the shoes and in 15 seconds she responds there perfect! So I hope you can understand my frustration since I know of the qc issues so I always make sure to ask for an inspection.
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Yikes, unfortunate situation. It's somewhat telling that those are considered normal though. confused.gifcrazy.gif
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

aaaand at that point, I start (started) looking at other companies.. no disrespect to alden, as I own a handful currently, but >$800 I start questioning my purchases

I started questioning at $700, just put down a deposit for the Leffot #8 Unlined PTB, this will likely be my last Alden purchase.
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All the recent color 8 cap toe posts forced my hand.  Picked these up from

Alden Madison. Haven't been brave enough to expose them to the Midwest

winter yet.  Will just settle for scuffing up the floor in the safety of the indoors.

 

AppleMark

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Adam may be a little different, however I appreciate his dedication to ensure the customer gets what he pays for. I appreciate his efforts for one, his irregulars look better than many of the firsts some allow to leave their establishments.
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Adam may be a little different, however I appreciate his dedication to ensure the customer gets what he pays for. I appreciate his efforts for one, his irregulars look better than many of the firsts some allow to leave their establishments.

The last pair I bought from Adam were blemish free.
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I tried my hardest to not waste too much time on these guys... I took them out on their maiden voyage today. My new Color 8 Plaza "Indy"... :-)

 

-Mike

 

 

 

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Alden seems to raise prices 30 to 50 dollars per year. $1000 shell will be a reality pretty quick here.

 

Yeah, that thought terrifies me. $1000 is beyond my sanity check for a pair of shoes.

 

I was thinking about that the other day, if rare shells are $730 in 2013. If they raise the price $25/year, in 11 years (2024), the price of a rare shell will exceed $1000. If it increases at a rate greater than $25/year, it will obviously be sooner. Ouch.

 

-Mike

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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

The last pair I bought from Adam were blemish free.


I would imagine so his QC is crazy strict. He relegates his own shoes that do not meet his standards to irregulars IIRC. Dedicated for sure, it benefits all involved.
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Yeah, that thought terrifies me. $1000 is beyond my sanity check for a pair of shoes.

 

I was thinking about that the other day, if rare shells are $730 in 2013. If they raise the price $25/year, in 11 years (2024), the price of a rare shell will exceed $1000. If it increases at a rate greater than $25/year, it will obviously be sooner. Ouch.

 

-Mike


I agree that a $25/year increase makes it seem like in a few years, aldens will be very expensive. I am not sure how other brands are increasing (or not) their prices in respect to this, but if you consider inflation to average around 4%, and that the average shell boot/shoe costs around $650, you get $26 annually for inflation. It seems hard to swallow that in 2024, shell will cost > $1000, but everything in 2024 will cost more.

 

Edit: I do also agree though, if the price of Alden starts to creep up towards Carmina, and other name brands producing nice shells, then there are fewer and fewer Aldens that would be attractive at that price. I would however, choose a lot of Alden boot make ups over other companies; Alden makes the best boots (in terms of looks, not quality control) in the world, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Nakedsnake View Post


I agree that a $25/year increase makes it seem like in a few years, aldens will be very expensive. I am not sure how other brands are increasing (or not) their prices in respect to this, but if you consider inflation to average around 4%, and that the average shell boot/shoe costs around $650, you get $26 annually for inflation. It seems hard to swallow that in 2024, shell will cost > $1000, but everything in 2024 will cost more.

Edit: I do also agree though, if the price of Alden starts to creep up towards Carmina, and other name brands producing nice shells, then there are fewer and fewer Aldens that would be attractive at that price. I would however, choose a lot of Alden boot make ups over other companies; Alden makes the best boots (in terms of looks, not quality control) in the world, in my opinion.

There has to be a tipping point, I just don't know what that point would be. I remember having this conversation when Alden cordovans were in the $500s, yet here we are doing the same thing (with perhaps more quality issues) +$200 later.

My unfortunate guess is that we are still below the threshold for many people on here. In fact, I am sort of surprised that there are not more people manipulating the system and trying to resell rare pairs at a major premium. Please no one get any ideas:D
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