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B. Nelson does not use the same commando sole?

Nope, I tried. It's nice, but not nearly as low-profile as the Alden version IMO.
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Its generally accepted that the commando sole won't make the she look chunkier.  It is impossible to notice from the top, and only noticeable on the heel from the side, and even then,someone would have to be laying on the floor looking at your shoes from the side to notice.

 

I think $50 is about what I would value the commando option, being that it would probably cost at least that to have the conversion done after market.  Also, the more limited availability of this make-up over the more widely-available stock version justifies a premium, at least in my view.

 

Also, that $645 is likely to increase within a week or 2.  The $695 too, probably.  (so don't think about it too long if you are price sensitive)

 

The soles are not wood.  They are leather.

 

It actually might be harder to get the commando version resoled, because the exact commando sole is hard to find.  You can easily find something similar, but the exact [low profile, hardly noticeable] version that Alden uses can only be replaced via Moulded Shoe in NYC, or Alden themselves (places that I know of)

Thanks for the feedback I called Alden Madison and they charge more for the commando 990 as well so I guess thats the going rate. Gonna place a order this week.

 

I have a pair of alden 684 full strap that need to be re-soled soon. I know B. Nelson is highly regarded around here but the sales rep at the Madison store said they send customers to Alex shoe repair on 44th. Anyone ever used them have any feedback? 

 

B. Nelson website says they charge $90 for a re-sole. Wondering if they would put a double leather sole if requested? They come with a single leather that I wore through pretty quickly.

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Thanks for the feedback I called Alden Madison and they charge more for the commando 990 as well so I guess thats the going rate. Gonna place a order this week.

 

I have a pair of alden 684 full strap that need to be re-soled soon. I know B. Nelson is highly regarded around here but the sales rep at the Madison store said they send customers to Alex shoe repair on 44th. Anyone ever used them have any feedback? 

 

B. Nelson website says they charge $90 for a re-sole. Wondering if they would put a double leather sole if requested? They come with a single leather that I wore through pretty quickly.

Heard of Alex Shoe Repair, never used them.

 

B. Nelson will do a double leather if you ask him to.  You'd have to discuss pricing with him.  Not sure if I'd like the way a full strap would look with a thicker sole, but your call.  If you allow the soles to get soaked from walking on wet pavement, the leather soles will wear much faster while they are wet and therefore softer.  That could be why the wore so fast.

 

If you can go without the shoes for 6-10 weeks, you could send them back to Alden for refurb.  Once you have had them resoled by another cobbler, Alden will no longer accept them for refurb.  B. Nelson does a fine job, but only Alden has the original last to use for the recrafting.  Not sure in actuality how important that is.  Maybe MWS can shed some light?

 

I'm sure any of the 3 are capable of a resole.

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A quick question for scuffs on cordovan. Can i get rid of the small scuffs by applying matched color wax on them?

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A quick question for scuffs on cordovan. Can i get rid of the small scuffs by applying matched color wax on them?

Yes, suggest you try and brush them and buff first. If it's not coming out, many people will then try a deer bone. Then do some paste waxing to fill and color.

-Mike
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Thank you sir. I don't have deer done right now. Might as well just buy one. Seems like an essential care product for cordovan shoes owner
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I was debating getting in on the Leffot pre order Dover shoe which I really like but ultimately decided to go with the 990ptb.

I think the commando sole would be really cool with it and was gonna go with that. J gilbert has that make but they want $695. I can find the stock 990 on double leather for $645.. debating if its worth the extra price. 

From peoples personal experience will the commando soled 990 look chunkier or any different from a stock 990 from a top or side view? I think the commando would be cool if it was a small aesthetic difference but didnt affect the overall look of the shoe. I wear my Aldens with pretty much only jeans and chinos so not too concerned with them being formal enough.

I never owned a commando but I have a Alden cordovan boot on crepe sole and it seems like that could be replaced cheaper and more easily before it hits the wooden sole portion (sorry not familiar with the correct names). Any truth to this or replacing a leather sole and commando is pretty much equal.

thanks for any feedback guy. A lot to learn
I think the shoes look the same from the top. From the side, you can see the sawtooth nature of the heel of the commando sole versus the leather of the heel with the double leather sole, but I think both look fine.  With jeans and chinos, either heel shapes (and dole) is fine.  The question is whether you would prefer one shape over the other.  Personally, I think the relatively rugged look of commando sole is an attractive juxtaposition with the smooth, shiny nature of the cordovan.  Moreover, as I mentioned in another post, if you plan to wear the shoes in snowy, icy surfaces, the commando sole is far more stable and safe than the double leather sole.  Without the commando sole, the shoes become either a 9-month item unless you find sliding and tumbling fun or you deal with galoshes.  

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A quick question for scuffs on cordovan. Can i get rid of the small scuffs by applying matched color wax on them?

I would say that one's course of action should be:
(1) Mac method: damp cloth, followed by heavy brushing. Cures 85% of issues. If that does not work, then...
(2) Deer bone. Cures 6% more of issues. If that does not work, then...
(3) Saphir Renovateur. Cures 5% more of issues. If that does not work, then...
(4) Wax. Cures 2% more of issues. If that does not work, then...
(5) Take them to a good shoe repair shop. This cures any remaining issues.

I have never had a scuff not be fixed by these steps. I stress though that when it comes to cordovan, less is more, so really focus on the Mac method.
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Thank you sir. I don't have deer done right now. Might as well just buy one. Seems like an essential care product for cordovan shoes owner

Opinions vary. I have never used one (and don't own one). As I recall, Mac has never used one either.

But get one if you wish. Whatever works .....
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I would say that one's course of action should be:
(1) Mac method: damp cloth, followed by heavy brushing. Cures 85% of issues. If that does not work, then...
(2) Deer bone. Cures 6% more of issues. If that does not work, then...
(3) Saphir Renovateur. Cures 5% more of issues. If that does not work, then...
(4) Wax. Cures 2% more of issues. If that does not work, then...
(5) Take them to a good shoe repair shop. This cures any remaining issues.

I have never had a scuff not be fixed by these steps. I stress though that when it comes to cordovan, less is more, so really focus on the Mac method.

I'd have to agree with you 98% with one caveat. Wax covers problems IMO. The other methods will help fix problems. 

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A quick question for scuffs on cordovan. Can i get rid of the small scuffs by applying matched color wax on them?

Purely my personal experience and perspective, and many on the thread may have different opinions on the subject.

In my experience, scuff marks, except for the most minor superficial kinds, on Alden Cordovan could be pretty difficult to get rid of. In most instances, what is being scuffed is the overcoat glazing, and not bare Cordovan.

The technique as demonstrated on the well known video on the Internet ( http://vimeo.com/4814754 around 8:30 ) really does not apply to the common glazed Cordovan from Alden. As shown on the video, scuff marks and even cuts on bare Cordovan is generally fairly easy to deal with. A little product, may it be paste wax, Renovateur, Venetian cream, plus moderate rubbing and brushing are all it takes.
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