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Yikes, unfortunate situation. It's somewhat telling that those are considered normal though. confused.gifcrazy.gif
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

aaaand at that point, I start (started) looking at other companies.. no disrespect to alden, as I own a handful currently, but >$800 I start questioning my purchases

I started questioning at $700, just put down a deposit for the Leffot #8 Unlined PTB, this will likely be my last Alden purchase.
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All the recent color 8 cap toe posts forced my hand.  Picked these up from

Alden Madison. Haven't been brave enough to expose them to the Midwest

winter yet.  Will just settle for scuffing up the floor in the safety of the indoors.

 

AppleMark

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Adam may be a little different, however I appreciate his dedication to ensure the customer gets what he pays for. I appreciate his efforts for one, his irregulars look better than many of the firsts some allow to leave their establishments.
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Adam may be a little different, however I appreciate his dedication to ensure the customer gets what he pays for. I appreciate his efforts for one, his irregulars look better than many of the firsts some allow to leave their establishments.

The last pair I bought from Adam were blemish free.
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I tried my hardest to not waste too much time on these guys... I took them out on their maiden voyage today. My new Color 8 Plaza "Indy"... :-)

 

-Mike

 

 

 

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Alden seems to raise prices 30 to 50 dollars per year. $1000 shell will be a reality pretty quick here.

 

Yeah, that thought terrifies me. $1000 is beyond my sanity check for a pair of shoes.

 

I was thinking about that the other day, if rare shells are $730 in 2013. If they raise the price $25/year, in 11 years (2024), the price of a rare shell will exceed $1000. If it increases at a rate greater than $25/year, it will obviously be sooner. Ouch.

 

-Mike

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The last pair I bought from Adam were blemish free.


I would imagine so his QC is crazy strict. He relegates his own shoes that do not meet his standards to irregulars IIRC. Dedicated for sure, it benefits all involved.
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Yeah, that thought terrifies me. $1000 is beyond my sanity check for a pair of shoes.

 

I was thinking about that the other day, if rare shells are $730 in 2013. If they raise the price $25/year, in 11 years (2024), the price of a rare shell will exceed $1000. If it increases at a rate greater than $25/year, it will obviously be sooner. Ouch.

 

-Mike


I agree that a $25/year increase makes it seem like in a few years, aldens will be very expensive. I am not sure how other brands are increasing (or not) their prices in respect to this, but if you consider inflation to average around 4%, and that the average shell boot/shoe costs around $650, you get $26 annually for inflation. It seems hard to swallow that in 2024, shell will cost > $1000, but everything in 2024 will cost more.

 

Edit: I do also agree though, if the price of Alden starts to creep up towards Carmina, and other name brands producing nice shells, then there are fewer and fewer Aldens that would be attractive at that price. I would however, choose a lot of Alden boot make ups over other companies; Alden makes the best boots (in terms of looks, not quality control) in the world, in my opinion.

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I agree that a $25/year increase makes it seem like in a few years, aldens will be very expensive. I am not sure how other brands are increasing (or not) their prices in respect to this, but if you consider inflation to average around 4%, and that the average shell boot/shoe costs around $650, you get $26 annually for inflation. It seems hard to swallow that in 2024, shell will cost > $1000, but everything in 2024 will cost more.

Edit: I do also agree though, if the price of Alden starts to creep up towards Carmina, and other name brands producing nice shells, then there are fewer and fewer Aldens that would be attractive at that price. I would however, choose a lot of Alden boot make ups over other companies; Alden makes the best boots (in terms of looks, not quality control) in the world, in my opinion.

There has to be a tipping point, I just don't know what that point would be. I remember having this conversation when Alden cordovans were in the $500s, yet here we are doing the same thing (with perhaps more quality issues) +$200 later.

My unfortunate guess is that we are still below the threshold for many people on here. In fact, I am sort of surprised that there are not more people manipulating the system and trying to resell rare pairs at a major premium. Please no one get any ideas:D
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Already there, the prices on the bay are just south of 1k for some of the exotic models.
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

ouch.

for as much flak as the calif alden dealer gets for his return policy (adam?) atleast I think I've read he's fairly thorough with his quality control.

at the end of the day, we're talking about shoes that very well will get scuffed/scraped/beat 5 minutes out the house.. but these are $500+ shoes.. not $50 DSWs..

I cannot speak to UnionMade's quality control, but I can say that UnionMade is responsive and take steps to remedy issues.
Edited by blackboard_knowledge - 1/29/14 at 10:11am
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I tried my hardest to not waste too much time on these guys... I took them out on their maiden voyage today. My new Color 8 Plaza "Indy"... :-)

-Mike
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Great shoes and great pics Mike.
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Originally Posted by blackboard_knowledge View Post


There has to be a tipping point, I just don't know what that point would be. I remember having this conversation when Alden cordovans were in the $500s, yet here we are doing the same thing (with perhaps more quality issues) +$200 later.

My unfortunate guess is that we are still below the threshold for many people on here. In fact, I am sort of surprised that there are not more people manipulating the system and trying to resell rare pairs at a major premium. Please no one get any ideas:D

 

imo, there are no shortage, atleast on ebay.

 

im not sure what styleforum rules are, but someone posting on here (either in this thread, or in their sig) an 'inflated' amount for a rare pair of shoes deserves any response other members feel appropriate. let the market establish value, but also let the market 'dictate' discussion of said value.

 

just my .02c, sent from a far corner of the web where I typically wait for sales for my aldens lol

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Originally Posted by blackboard_knowledge View Post


I cannot speak to UnionMade's quality control --I have had problems with my orders, but as someone accurately stated, Alden is culpable as well-- but I can say that Adam and UnionMade are responsive and take steps to remedy issues.

My comment before was merely identifying a trend regarding these type of posts seeming to reference UnionMade --I am a statistician-- and was not meant to stir the pot.

 

my apologies. my post was not intended to stir the pot. I have not had the pleasure of doing business with Adam, mainly as he admitted to rarely ordering above sz11 IIRC

 

I have also no skin in the game concerning Unionmade. They are another vendor I've yet to purchase from (mainly as their shell options dont appeal to me typically).

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