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Why not both?  At the same time!

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Not an expert, but that looks like the WELT is coming off.

That pair is done. You need a replacement.

 

Ah great.. I live in Canada and got 'em while travelling in NY.. this will be a fun process.

 

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^^^ Hmmmm...a wingtip NST....
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Contacted Frans Boone just on the off chance they're restocking the cigar PT boots sometime in the relative near future.  Basically no, and their #8 and black offerings will be around in September.  They told me that even the #8 and black models will be rare in the new future.  Not sure if this is back they're OCONUS, but it's sad to hear.  

 

The search for cigar continues!

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^^ Thanks. Just bought my last pair of boots for at least a couple months. I do want a shell wingtip and will probably be my next boot. I passed on the wingtip on Commando from NYC a bit ago and ShoeMart doesn't have my size at the moment. I actually still haven't decided if I want commando or leather soles.

The #8 NST? Or did you score something else?
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The #8 NST? Or did you score something else?
Yep, the NST.
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I myself am planning a two week trip soon and was thinking what shoes I would take. I would probably take three - a loafer, boot and a shoe. Probably Leffot tankers, some kind of LHS and my suede longwings. Something like a CXL tanker or even an Indy boo would also be a good travel shoe.

That sounds great! I was traveling around the continent so had to go really light. I thought a PTB gave me the most versatility, so it was between the tobacco chamois or the natty cxl. In the end the chamois won out because I thought it would hold up a little better esp with potential bad weather. They served well
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Hi guys, I need some help. I just noticed the sole coming loose on my 403's. I've had problems with my 403's before and got a new pair from Alden i May 2012. I've worn them regularly since them. I take good care of them and use shoe trees, brush them at least 3 times a month!

 

Here's some pics:

 

 

Is it just time to swap soles are should I contact Alden?

 

Cheers guys!

 

 

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That should be a definite issue to contact Alden over.  The area that you are seeing separating isn't just the sole, it is the welt pulling away from the upper of the shoe.  This can only result through inseam failure, which is a very bad thing.  Either the welt stitching that attaches the welt to the canvas gemming underneath the insole is failing, or the gemming itself is failing (coming unglued from the bottom of the insole).  Gemming failure is best repaired by the factory, if possible, in order to maintain the proper alignment of the rest of the shoe on it's original last when it is being repaired.  There are some cobblers (like B. Nelson) who claim to be comfortable with handling some types of issues such as this, but I wouldn't trust it to just anyone.

 

 

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Thanks for the answer! Not what I wanted to hear though:(. It's the same thing that happened last time(got a new pair). I'll send them an email!

 

 

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While it is likely just inseam failure from the stitches (rather than the gemming separating from the insole), it is still something that Alden should be responsible for.  The stitches are sealed inside the shoe between the outsole and insole (and surrounded by cork).  There isn't much you can do to make those come loose, short of wearing the boots out to the point that they get destroyed by contact with the ground after the sole wears out.  Thus, on a newish boot, it should be considered a manufacturing defect.

 

Either way, the stitches have to be coming loose, because if only the gemming were failing, you probably wouldn't realize it until the boots were sent in for resoling.  In other words, it's either the gemming AND the stitches, or it's just the stitches themselves.  Not just the gemming alone.

 

 

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I just sent them an email, and reffered to the last time it happened and attached a couple of pictures. The last time I had the same problem with my other pair I took them to my local cobbler(he's and Alden dealer and regarded as the best in Norway) he wouldn't do it(it would cost me too much) and said I would be best off sending them to Alden. He said this type of defect should happen, as well!

 

 

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my month old 403s.. the upper is separating from the sole. super. i've shot an email over to the vendor i purchased from hoping they can steer me in the right direction...

 

i've searched a few ppl have had this problem but i couldnt find the resolution. anyone care to chime in? i believe it may be as 'simple' as sending it to alden?

 

 

Wow, you are the second person to bring that up in the last couple of weeks, and apparently the previous poster had more than one pair do this (See the above conversation).  They've all been 403's too.  Definitely return them to Alden.  That's not satisfactory and should warrant immediate repair/replacement.  That is a bigger issue than just welt separation.  Rather, it is the inseam coming apart, which will ultimately result in the entire shoe failing down the road.  Alden may have a systematic defect going on that needs to be addressed.

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Ravello LWB

 

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So would you return them if you had the same pair? 

To ask the question is to know the answer. nod[1].gif

At this point it matters not what any of us has to say. You are sufficiently bothered by them and you should return them. I am not being sarcastic. The 975 is an Alden staple and getting a replacement should not take long at all. Good luck.
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Ravello LWB



nice
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Wow, you are the second person to bring that up in the last couple of weeks, and apparently the previous poster had more than one pair do this (See the above conversation).  They've all been 403's too.  Definitely return them to Alden.  That's not satisfactory and should warrant immediate repair/replacement.  That is a bigger issue than just welt separation.  Rather, it is the inseam coming apart, which will ultimately result in the entire shoe failing down the road.  Alden may have a systematic defect going on that needs to be addressed.

 

Yep! I contacted Alden and they arranged a UPS pickup for my shoes here in Norway. They will be sent to the factory! 

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Shot of whiskey for Friday happy hour



All business yesterday

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Wow, you are the second person to bring that up in the last couple of weeks, and apparently the previous poster had more than one pair do this (See the above conversation).  They've all been 403's too.  Definitely return them to Alden.  That's not satisfactory and should warrant immediate repair/replacement.  That is a bigger issue than just welt separation.  Rather, it is the inseam coming apart, which will ultimately result in the entire shoe failing down the road.  Alden may have a systematic defect going on that needs to be addressed.

 

I suppose scrolling back a few pages I would have found my answer- thank you kindly for referencing those previous posts :)

 

I've let the vendor know and will take it from there. Hopefully Alden can take care of me in a timely manner given that I'm not in the states but rather living in America's hat :D

 

I definitely would prefer they take care of it rather than a local shop (although I'm sure there are few reputable manufacturers in Vancouver BC who could fix it...)

 

 

 

 

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Yep! I contacted Alden and they arranged a UPS pickup for my shoes here in Norway. They will be sent to the factory! 

 

Oh that's great to know :)

 

Canada is much closer than Norway;hopefully it'll be straight forward as well. i'll shoot them an email :)

 

Cheers!

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