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I'm thinking of sending my Alden for BB Plain Toes in to Alden Restoration. I really like the idea of getting back a "new" shoe, however, I'm hoping they'll refinish them as well? I know it's common for them to do that - the question I have is, is that the default. I know plenty of folks on here want their patina to stay the same, I however - don't.

 

I got the restoration bag in the mail - it's $165 and that price is good until March 31st. I can't imagine Alden making that a lower price...

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I was in leffot's store a couple of days ago and asked about the next run of these. Are you usually a 7.5d on Barrie, and do these fit larger than expected?

Well, my situation is a little different since I'm always in between sizes.  I can go 1/2 size down and wear the 7.5D on Barrie, or I can sometimes go a full size down and wear a 7D on Barrie.  For boots with thicker socks, I typically prefer the 7.5D.  For dress shoes, I often go with the 7D.  It really just depends though.  I would say that you should go 1/2 size down as usual.

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Originally Posted by tampatravel View Post

I'm thinking of sending my Alden for BB Plain Toes in to Alden Restoration. I really like the idea of getting back a "new" shoe, however, I'm hoping they'll refinish them as well? I know it's common for them to do that - the question I have is, is that the default. I know plenty of folks on here want their patina to stay the same, I however - don't.

I got the restoration bag in the mail - it's $165 and that price is good until March 31st. I can't imagine Alden making that a lower price...

That price will never go down. It is up from 159 last year (less 10 if you don't want trees). They will refinish them.
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^Amen to that.  Natural law of 'we can charge more'

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Originally Posted by MoosicPa View Post

These LE Alden Shell longwings arrived today.... haven't even had a chance to wear them yet! LOL


Great shoes. The flat welt, which makes them different than the 9751, makes them slightly dressier than the 9751. Of course they have the non-stock red lining too. Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by tampatravel View Post

I'm thinking of sending my Alden for BB Plain Toes in to Alden Restoration. I really like the idea of getting back a "new" shoe, however, I'm hoping they'll refinish them as well? I know it's common for them to do that - the question I have is, is that the default. I know plenty of folks on here want their patina to stay the same, I however - don't.

I got the restoration bag in the mail - it's $165 and that price is good until March 31st. I can't imagine Alden making that a lower price...

From the consumer's perspective, that's a reasonable price for shell shoes, but Alden also charges the same $165 for non-shell shoes.

Shell - new at retail ~$700, with 50% retail margin, that's about $350 wholesale.
Non-shell - new at retail ~$500, with 50% retail margin, that's about $250 wholesale.

Factory restoration ~ $165 for shell and non-shell. There is no retail markup. So, $165 (minus $10 trees) go to the factory.

Bottom line: $155 vs $250 vs $350
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Flannel pants from Epaulet with Alden plain toe boot - commando sole - King

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From the consumer's perspective, that's a reasonable price for shell shoes, but Alden also charges the same $165 for non-shell shoes.

Shell - new at retail ~$700, with 50% retail margin, that's about $350 wholesale.
Non-shell - new at retail ~$500, with 50% retail margin, that's about $250 wholesale.

Factory restoration ~ $165 for shell and non-shell. There is no retail markup. So, $165 (minus $10 trees) go to the factory.

Bottom line: $155 vs $250 vs $350

mtc

Is it fair to compare wholesale value with the restoration retail value?

99% of the population is most likely buying at the retail price (when buying new), so the comparison should be apples to apples.

 

 

Additionally, are you sure they are actually getting a 50% gross margin on the shoes, or is that just an assumption?

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Originally Posted by mtc2000 View Post

From the consumer's perspective, that's a reasonable price for shell shoes, but Alden also charges the same $165 for non-shell shoes.

Shell - new at retail ~$700, with 50% retail margin, that's about $350 wholesale.
Non-shell - new at retail ~$500, with 50% retail margin, that's about $250 wholesale.

Factory restoration ~ $165 for shell and non-shell. There is no retail markup. So, $165 (minus $10 trees) go to the factory.

Bottom line: $155 vs $250 vs $350

Doesn't Alden also pay for shipping both ways for restorations? If yes then they are making less than $155...
post #70960 of 94182

CXL Brixton's

 

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Thanks!

I wore them for a few hours the morning I took delivery (Sat), then against better judgement had them on my feet for 10 hours Sunday, although with minimal walking.

They started to hurt toward the end of the day and when I took them off both my big and pinky toes were mostly numb. It was an odd sensation, still feel it a bit some 16 hours later. Guess I'll wait a few days and try to wear them a half day at a time and see what that does.

Never experienced this in a shoe before so I'm not sure what to think of it. Last year in NYC I spent 5 weeks of daily, 2-5 mile wear in my 7D indy boots with nary a problem.
I had a similar situation with a pair of shoes I bought for my wedding. I made the mistake of not breaking them in before my wedding. So I proceeded to wear them for about 12 hours straight on my wedding day. Bad idea. My feet were killing me by the end of the night and my big toe on my left foot ended up numb for over a month!

I wore the shoes for the second time to a wedding last weekend and they were very comfortable. I didn't feel any discomfort. I guess the 12 hour break-in did the trick!
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Originally Posted by mtc2000 View Post


From the consumer's perspective, that's a reasonable price for shell shoes, but Alden also charges the same $165 for non-shell shoes.

Shell - new at retail ~$700, with 50% retail margin, that's about $350 wholesale.
Non-shell - new at retail ~$500, with 50% retail margin, that's about $250 wholesale.

Factory restoration ~ $165 for shell and non-shell. There is no retail markup. So, $165 (minus $10 trees) go to the factory.

Bottom line: $155 vs $250 vs $350

 

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Doesn't Alden also pay for shipping both ways for restorations? If yes then they are making less than $155...

 

I think it is a great service that company's like Alden offer, and I hope they continue to offer it as it is a nice option to have as a customer.  I'm not suggesting anyone disagrees with the previous statement just wanted to put it out there.

 

I understand the relative cost/benefit comparison between shell and non-shell makes a difficult case for restoring non-shell, however I don't think their actual cost of the restoration regardless of margin differs much from shell to CXL, the materials for re-soling and refinishing most likely do not vary. The majority of the price reflects labor costs, which increases every year and $159 to $165 YoY is not a large increase.

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I had a similar situation with a pair of shoes I bought for my wedding. I made the mistake of not breaking them in before my wedding. So I proceeded to wear them for about 12 hours straight on my wedding day. Bad idea. My feet were killing me by the end of the night and my big toe on my left foot ended up numb for over a month!

I wore the shoes for the second time to a wedding last weekend and they were very comfortable. I didn't feel any discomfort. I guess the 12 hour break-in did the trick!

Were they Shell Alden Shoes?

 

I would caution the OP that if they are THAT ill fitting from the start, they probably won't ever fit well.

 

Also, to OP.  Indy boots are said to be very comfortable right out of the box, so that doesn't surprise me.  I would not expect that from all of Alden's models.

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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Were they Shell Alden Shoes?

I would caution the OP that if they are THAT ill fitting from the start, they probably won't ever fit well.

Also, to OP.  Indy boots are said to be very comfortable right out of the box, so that doesn't surprise me.  I would not expect that from all of Alden's models.
No, they were not shell Aldens. I was just relating to the OP wearing new shoes for a very long period of time.
post #70965 of 94182

I am late to the party, but these are probably my favorite Aldens......cigar ptb dovers.

 

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