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Just curious if any one feels that the Barrie last on a boot is tighter/smaller than shoe?!?! I have had or owned a Trubalance Indy, Barrie shell SWB, Plaza shell medallion toe, and recently a pair of Epaulet Taunton Cap Toe boot on Barrie.

I was a 9.0D in Trubalance/Barrie shoes and 9.5D in my Plazas. I figured that I have this whole Alden sizing thing dialed in. Anyhow, I wore my new 9.0D Taunton Cap toes today and they feel really snug. They have the commando sole and I was planning on wearing thicker socks with them as my go to winter boot. At this point, it does not look like it is going to happen. I am totally bummed....

Anyone interested in a pair of 9.0D Burnished Tan Cap Toe boots worn for 6 hours.... Probably less than 1/4 mile of walking frown.gif
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Sole question - I'm trying to get a handle on the different soles, and from what I can reasonably gather from browsing this lengthy thread for a few months now, the Double Waterlock is initially more comfortable/easier to break in, lighter and possibly better wearing than a traditional double leather sole due better handling of wet weather. Any comments and experience on these assertions? If all or even most of that is true, why doesn't Alden use Double Waterlock soles on everything? Also, is the Flex Welt the same as a single Waterlock sole? Every picture I see of a Waterlock sole looks like a Flex Welt sole, i.e. the darker coloring.

Many thanks.

I have cycled through ~20 different Alden shoes and boots now (kept 10 for the long haul) in a variety of soles; single waterlock, double waterlock, crepe, standard oak tan, commando. I have resolved to default to Alden purchases on the waterlock soles, preferably double waterlock. They are more comfortable immediately after purchase, have a shorter break in time and are better in wet weather. Crepe comes very close but it looks too casual in many situations and looks very rough after some wear. My oldest pairs of Alden are about 3 years old now and the shoes/boots with waterlock soles are holding up better than others in wear and appearance.

WRT aesthetics, I usually wear my Alden's with jeans so I have no issue whatsoever with the idea that a waterlock sole is less formal than the standard oak. Having said that, unless you are a very conservative dresser or work in an environment where you are expected to maintain a certain appearance, I can't imagine someone would care to judge you based on the shade of your soles.

I would not kick a beautiful makeup out of bed based on sole, but would much prefer any Alden shoe or boot with waterlock soles.
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Just curious if any one feels that the Barrie last on a boot is tighter/smaller than shoe?!?! I have had or owned a Trubalance Indy, Barrie shell SWB, Plaza shell medallion toe, and recently a pair of Epaulet Taunton Cap Toe boot on Barrie.

I was a 9.0D in Trubalance/Barrie shoes and 9.5D in my Plazas. I figured that I have this whole Alden sizing thing dialed in. Anyhow, I wore my new 9.0D Taunton Cap toes today and they feel really snug. They have the commando sole and I was planning on wearing thicker socks with them as my go to winter boot. At this point, it does not look like it is going to happen. I am totally bummed....

Anyone interested in a pair of 9.0D Burnished Tan Cap Toe boots worn for 6 hours.... Probably less than 1/4 mile of walking frown.gif

My experience is that there is more of a difference between style makeups on Barrie lasts (captoe versus shortwing vs longwing vs ptb vs etc..) than there is between boots and shoes on the Barrie last. You can say I am a Barrie/Trubalance specialist and all makeups I have received fit roughly all the same. I had captoe boots (two pairs out of ~20) that felt tighter than what I was used to. It might be related to the thicker band of leather used on a punched captoe that was placed more pressure on my forefoot but I was not sure.

Keep in mind that the cork footbed will break in resulting in your foot sinking down a little bit into the boots after a few wears so any pressure you feel towards the top of your feet will ease, however if you feel pressure on the sides of your feet then it is likely not a good match.

Best of luck and happy cordovan.
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Originally Posted by onehotchili View Post

Just curious if any one feels that the Barrie last on a boot is tighter/smaller than shoe?!?! I have had or owned a Trubalance Indy, Barrie shell SWB, Plaza shell medallion toe, and recently a pair of Epaulet Taunton Cap Toe boot on Barrie.

I was a 9.0D in Trubalance/Barrie shoes and 9.5D in my Plazas. I figured that I have this whole Alden sizing thing dialed in. Anyhow, I wore my new 9.0D Taunton Cap toes today and they feel really snug. They have the commando sole and I was planning on wearing thicker socks with them as my go to winter boot. At this point, it does not look like it is going to happen. I am totally bummed....

Anyone interested in a pair of 9.0D Burnished Tan Cap Toe boots worn for 6 hours.... Probably less than 1/4 mile of walking frown.gif

 

My experience is cap toe style (no matter shoe/boot) is tighter than long wing/nst/plain toe.

Some people said boots, in general, are tighter than shoes in the same last.

 

If you still want to keep the boots, try wearing dress socks with them.

But as you said you want to make them your go to winter boots, so.....

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Thank you to all that provided insight, my questions have been answered. Now if I can just find the perfect combination of LWB with an antique edge and double waterlock sole I can put this current fixation to rest.

Call Alden DC.  I believe they did a ravello LWB make-up in this manner less than a year ago.  It's unlikely they have any left, but you can at least get on their list for their next run.  Not sure that I have seen that combination from any other retailer.

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I like that saying.... "Happy Cordovan"

Much nicer than "Go to SHell, my friend" smile.gif
Edited by tampatravel - 11/21/13 at 4:22am
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Thank you to all that provided insight, my questions have been answered. Now if I can just find the perfect combination of LWB with an antique edge and double waterlock sole I can put this current fixation to rest.

As mentioned before, Leffot orders this combo twice a year and appears to have 3 sizes left currently (8E, 10E, 11.5E).
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As mentioned before, Leffot orders this combo twice a year and appears to have 3 sizes left currently (8E, 10E, 11.5E).

I went and tried on the 10E and it was about a 1/4" larger than 10D in overall length, which is my size in barrie. Phenomenal shoe that I will be pre-ordering next time. Wasn't a total loss. Picked up a jar of Reno.
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Damn, those #8 dovers are sweet. They sold out in my size in no time!



Great lookin pix today gents!



NST today for me

 



I love these.
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A lot of discussion about Dovers yesterday so I figured I would wear and post my black ones from Alden DC



About 15 wears in. I guess there is slightly more creasing than a lined pair, but nothing that noticeable. Super comfortable and lightweight (almost too lightweight for the cold weather). Smaller and sleeker shoe that probably goes better with suits when all is said and done. However on Monday I wore my 990s with slacks and a blazer and then changed into jeans and a sweater after work to go to dinner and kept the 990 on - I think the traditional PTB works better for that transition, especially in the fall. Decisions decisions...
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A lot of discussion about Dovers yesterday so I figured I would wear and post my black ones from Alden DC
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About 15 wears in. I guess there is slightly more creasing than a lined pair, but nothing that noticeable. Super comfortable and lightweight (almost too lightweight for the cold weather). Smaller and sleeker shoe that probably goes better with suits when all is said and done. However on Monday I wore my 990s with slacks and a blazer and then changed into jeans and a sweater after work to go to dinner and kept the 990 on - I think the traditional PTB works better for that transition, especially in the fall. Decisions decisions...

Looking good. Maybe the Dover is a niche best filled by more "casual" leathers, like suede.

That being said, I would have been all over those Leffot color 8 dovers had I not placed my LWB order yesterday.
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Dover is nice my problem with them is that they feel narrower than the std PTB, it migh work fine on CXL and Suede since those stretch but shell?not sure.

Color 8 dover, Ravello PTB same size, Dover feels like a different size width wise.

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I'm really considering picking up these 9 eyelet cap toe boots in the black calf leather, does anyone either own or know anything about these ones?

I had checked around but couldn't really find much info online.

http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-mens-9-eyelet-cap-toe-boot-commando-sole-calfskin-black/pvc-ald-mxsbd-40727c_ald_m_9_eyelet_cap_toe_boot_commando_sole_calfskin.html

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Dover is nice my problem with them is that they feel narrower than the std PTB, it migh work fine on CXL and Suede since those stretch but shell?not sure.

Color 8 dover, Ravello PTB same size, Dover feels like a different size width wise.


The dover is simply a smaller shoe all around. Length, width, etc. If your current Barrie size is very snug already, a Dover in the same size may be too small. All of my PTBs (both lined and unlined) are pretty comfy in 9.5E.
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