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Avoid wax on vegetable tanned though.

 

Yeah.  For the Churchills, I'd beat em up and just use a conditioner every so often.

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Made some moves today, pumped!

 

Sold off my snuff bluchers, since the Leydon last seemed too long. Pulled the trigger on some Natural CXL longwings via epaulet. Going with 8.5D Barrie for now, but luckily they have 9D in stock if I run into fit issues.

 

I have a feeling the CXL + oiled sole combo will stretch a bit with use.

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New offering from Leffot:

 

Alden x Leffot Dover

 

Alden x Leffot Dover

 

http://leffot.com/shop/index.php/shoes/alden/29386f.html

 

It’s no secret that we love shell cordovan, and since the Dover is one of our favorite shoes, we decided to combine the two to create these unlined color 8 bluchers. They’re on the comfortable flex soles, which give them the added versatility of being slightly dressier than shoes with rubber soles. If you’re a fan of Alden’s classic PT blucher, these Dovers are the logical next step.


Edited by tampatravel - 11/20/13 at 9:29am
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Damn, that's nice!

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I completely agree, Alcibiades. Alden seems to do best with their cordovan finishing, followed by their cxl offerings and suede. I do like the casual calfskin pieces, but I have noticed that they are just not as supple as even an Allen Edmonds (I won't get banned for saying this, right?!). For example, I have the AE Rutledge in burnished walnut or whatever it's called; despite the two pairs being of a similar hue, there is no comparison between the softness of the Rutledge (which feels like it molds to one's foot) and the feel of the JC Alden tobacco lwb (which to this day--after close to 25 wearings) still asks my foot to yield to it, rather than molding to my movements. Similarly, my Church Hill Indys are neat looking boots, but I expect them to be squeaky for the next several months (although I do have enough of a rotation that these don't get worn more than once every several weeks).

 

I have yet to try calfskin from higher end companies like C&J, Vass and EG. But Christmas is coming and I think I'm finally going to pull the trigger on some Westminsters in dark oak calf :)

 

Not dumping on Alden, just trying to be nuanced in how I understand what they do best and what they are just ok at. Curious to hear others' experience with stock non-shell models...  

 

I only own Allen Edmonds shoes so cannot directly compare with Alden, but I did want to point out that AE's Rutledge is part of their Independence Collection, which is their higher end (and higher priced) version of calfskin. Independence line shoes differ from other AEs by their "Lined premium burnished calfskin leather upper with ultra-soft lambskin lining" and "Bi-color sole with wheeled edges and bi-color heel". That said, all accounts I have read agree with you that the leather is simply amazing.

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The unlined color 8 dovers on antique came out looking great. I'd buy if I didn't already have the 990. If you don't already have a color 8 PTB, jump on those...
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Made some moves today, pumped!

Sold off my snuff bluchers, since the Leydon last seemed too long. Pulled the trigger on some Natural CXL longwings via epaulet. Going with 8.5D Barrie for now, but luckily they have 9D in stock if I run into fit issues.

I have a feeling the CXL + oiled sole combo will stretch a bit with use.

Not to rain on your parade, but the Nat CXL LWB from Epaulet is also on the Leydon last.
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Not to rain on your parade, but the Nat CXL LWB from Epaulet is also on the Leydon last.

 

http://epauletnewyork.com/collections/alden/products/alden-for-epaulet-natural-chromexcel-longwing

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The unlined color 8 dovers on antique came out looking great. I'd buy if I didn't already have the 990. If you don't already have a color 8 PTB, jump on those...

 



Can someone explain to me the difference between the 990's and the Dover shoe? Is it that the Dover is unlined?
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^ I believe that description is incorrect and these are in fact on the Leydon. Double check with the folks at Epaulet to make sure.
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

The unlined color 8 dovers on antique came out looking great. I'd buy if I didn't already have the 990. If you don't already have a color 8 PTB, jump on those...

 



Can someone explain to me the difference between the 990's and the Dover shoe? Is it that the Dover is unlined?


The Dover is going to feel more sleek on your foot (for a Barrie Last at least). Unlined. My 990s are lined and they have a double sole. The 990s is going to be clunkier I'd say. Either shoe would be an awesome edition - I'd also say the 990s would be considered to be more dressy.

 

Either way #8 Shell is KING.

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

The unlined color 8 dovers on antique came out looking great. I'd buy if I didn't already have the 990. If you don't already have a color 8 PTB, jump on those...

 



Can someone explain to me the difference between the 990's and the Dover shoe? Is it that the Dover is unlined?

The pattern.  Particularly on the side of the shoe.  Look at them Side by side.

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

The unlined color 8 dovers on antique came out looking great. I'd buy if I didn't already have the 990. If you don't already have a color 8 PTB, jump on those...

 



Can someone explain to me the difference between the 990's and the Dover shoe? Is it that the Dover is unlined?

The facings are different (I believe that's the right term) - the part of the shoe that holds the laces. 

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Originally Posted by tampatravel View Post
 

New offering from Leffot:

 

Alden x Leffot Dover

 

Alden x Leffot Dover

 

http://leffot.com/shop/index.php/shoes/alden/29386f.html

 

It’s no secret that we love shell cordovan, and since the Dover is one of our favorite shoes, we decided to combine the two to create these unlined color 8 bluchers. They’re on the comfortable flex soles, which give them the added versatility of being slightly dressier than shoes with rubber soles. If you’re a fan of Alden’s classic PT blucher, these Dovers are the logical next step.

 

 

I love the dover but a little unsure of the unlined part. Anyone have pics of a broken in pair of these? I don't mind a little creasing but I don't like too much of it.

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

The unlined color 8 dovers on antique came out looking great. I'd buy if I didn't already have the 990. If you don't already have a color 8 PTB, jump on those...

 



Can someone explain to me the difference between the 990's and the Dover shoe? Is it that the Dover is unlined?

990
Lined upper
"One piece" look
Dark edged double leather sole

Leffot Dover
Unlined upper
Two piece construction (notice the curved stitching from the lace flap to the sole of the shoe) - this is what is called the "Dover pattern"
Single oiled flex welt sole

Overall the Dover looks sleeker and smaller than the 990 in the same size.
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