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post #66751 of 99196
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Originally Posted by Dillardiv View Post

Just picked up my first pair of Aldens! The Church Hill Indy's from Need Supply and I'm pretty excited about them! They are described as vegetable tanned leather and I was wondering if anyone had care advice. I looked around on google a bit and didn't seem to find any great answers. Renovateur plus some cream polish every once in a while? Obenauf LP? I plan on transitioning a heavier pair of brown plain toe boots into my "beaters" and these for more dressier occasions. Thoughts?

 

Just pickup some tan Alden polish, or a corresponding color of Saphir polish, as well as some Saphir Renovateur, which is essentially fancy French leather conditioner. Enjoy your first pair. Cheers. 

post #66752 of 99196
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Originally Posted by smoothie1 View Post

Just pickup some tan Alden polish, or a corresponding color of Saphir polish, as well as some Saphir Renovateur, which is essentially fancy French leather conditioner. Enjoy your first pair. Cheers. 

So basically treat the same as calfskin?
post #66753 of 99196
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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

Your observation is correct.  It seems like most of the folks posting are exclusively shell or 'almost' exclusively shell oriented. Some love their shell so much they won't consider calf anymore.  When you see the depth and complexity (sounds like wine) of the Ravello, Cigar or #8 in some of the pics, it's easy to understand why.

I truly love my shell boots but I still love my calf and other leathers, particularly CXL.  I lean towards a more casual look and prefer most of my boots to look worn-in, rather than new and shiny. I admire the beauty of shell but much of it is just too dressy looking for where my wardrobe is at or where I want it to be.

I think Alden excels in cordovan, suede, and chromexcel, and casual calfskin boots and shoes (Indy Boots, J Gilbert wingtip boots, Tobacco Indy, J Crew tobacco longwing, etc). But for "regular calf," it seems like other brands have better workmanship and styling for the money. For example, I'm looking for a black calfskin balmoral oxford, and I'm not really considering the Alden Hampton model. Allen Edmonds offers a similar model (Park Avenue) at a lower price while other brands (Crockett and Jones on up) offer sleeker, better models at slightly higher prices. If others have better experiences with Alden's black and brown calfskin, please let me know.

EDIT - I do like almost all of the burnished tan calfskin models I have seen - I guess the J Crew longwings are in this category, as well as the J Gilbert tan wingtip boots, the "Obscura" models from a couple of years back, Alden stock shortwing bluchers, etc.
post #66754 of 99196
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Originally Posted by Dillardiv View Post

Just picked up my first pair of Aldens! The Church Hill Indy's from Need Supply and I'm pretty excited about them! They are described as vegetable tanned leather and I was wondering if anyone had care advice. I looked around on google a bit and didn't seem to find any great answers. Renovateur plus some cream polish every once in a while? Obenauf LP? I plan on transitioning a heavier pair of brown plain toe boots into my "beaters" and these for more dressier occasions. Thoughts?

wear them, brush occasionally and enjoy! Maybe some Reno every 6 months or so (at most) depending on weekly wear

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After owning several models in double leather sole and the "double waterlock" or "heavy single waterlock" sole, I can't really tell a difference between the two in performance. To me, the normal double leather sole is pretty durable after broken in. I guess in theory the oiled sole is more water resistant, but I haven't had any problems with double leather soles in normal wet conditions in a city. I know other seasoned Alden vets disagree with me here, but I basically ignore the distinction between the two. Of course the single waterlock sole feels significantly different on foot (more flexible, lighter, etc).

As far as casual vs dressy, my black unlined PTBs have a black edged single oiled sole which looks pretty dressy; I'm sure they could do the same thing with a double waterlock sole as well.
post #66756 of 99196

My second pair of Aldens, but first pair of shells.  With the double waterlock sole, they're breaking in nicely.

 

Could someone please advise on care of the antique edge?  I've read a ton of posts on cordovan care so I think I'll be ok with the uppers (and not ruin them), but not so sure about the welt and edge? Renovatuer or a neutral cream or wax maybe?  Does Fiebing's make something more appropriate?  I'd prefer a soft, matte sheen, not too shiny.  Thx for any thoughts!

 

 

 

post #66757 of 99196
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Originally Posted by KT88 View Post

My second pair of Aldens, but first pair of shells.  With the double waterlock sole, they're breaking in nicely.

Could someone please advise on care of the antique edge?  I've read a ton of posts on cordovan care so I think I'll be ok with the uppers (and not ruin them), but not so sure about the welt and edge? Renovatuer or a neutral cream or wax maybe?  Does Fiebing's make something more appropriate?  I'd prefer a soft, matte sheen, not too shiny.  Thx for any thoughts!





First of all, nice shoes and nice pant/sock/shoe combo

Second, I use Allen Edmonds chili edge dressing on these. I don't find it makes the edge look "shiny," it just maintains kind of a neatness. As far as the welt, whatever product you use occasionally (Reno) can be rubbed into the welt.
post #66758 of 99196
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post


I think Alden excels in cordovan, suede, and chromexcel, and casual calfskin boots and shoes (Indy Boots, J Gilbert wingtip boots, Tobacco Indy, J Crew tobacco longwing, etc). But for "regular calf," it seems like other brands have better workmanship and styling for the money. For example, I'm looking for a black calfskin balmoral oxford, and I'm not really considering the Alden Hampton model. Allen Edmonds offers a similar model (Park Avenue) at a lower price while other brands (Crockett and Jones on up) offer sleeker, better models at slightly higher prices. If others have better experiences with Alden's black and brown calfskin, please let me know.

EDIT - I do like almost all of the burnished tan calfskin models I have seen - I guess the J Crew longwings are in this category, as well as the J Gilbert tan wingtip boots, the "Obscura" models from a couple of years back, Alden stock shortwing bluchers, etc.

I completely agree, Alcibiades. Alden seems to do best with their cordovan finishing, followed by their cxl offerings and suede. I do like the casual calfskin pieces, but I have noticed that they are just not as supple as even an Allen Edmonds (I won't get banned for saying this, right?!). For example, I have the AE Rutledge in burnished walnut or whatever it's called; despite the two pairs being of a similar hue, there is no comparison between the softness of the Rutledge (which feels like it molds to one's foot) and the feel of the JC Alden tobacco lwb (which to this day--after close to 25 wearings) still asks my foot to yield to it, rather than molding to my movements. Similarly, my Church Hill Indys are neat looking boots, but I expect them to be squeaky for the next several months (although I do have enough of a rotation that these don't get worn more than once every several weeks).

 

I have yet to try calfskin from higher end companies like C&J, Vass and EG. But Christmas is coming and I think I'm finally going to pull the trigger on some Westminsters in dark oak calf :)

 

Not dumping on Alden, just trying to be nuanced in how I understand what they do best and what they are just ok at. Curious to hear others' experience with stock non-shell models...  

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Thanks for the compliment and the tip, Alcibiades!  I'll give the Chili edge a look.

post #66760 of 99196
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Originally Posted by Dillardiv View Post


So basically treat the same as calfskin?

 

Avoid wax on vegetable tanned though.

post #66761 of 99196
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Originally Posted by Shouldaville View Post
 

 

Avoid wax on vegetable tanned though.

 

Yeah.  For the Churchills, I'd beat em up and just use a conditioner every so often.

post #66762 of 99196

Made some moves today, pumped!

 

Sold off my snuff bluchers, since the Leydon last seemed too long. Pulled the trigger on some Natural CXL longwings via epaulet. Going with 8.5D Barrie for now, but luckily they have 9D in stock if I run into fit issues.

 

I have a feeling the CXL + oiled sole combo will stretch a bit with use.

post #66763 of 99196

New offering from Leffot:

 

Alden x Leffot Dover

 

Alden x Leffot Dover

 

http://leffot.com/shop/index.php/shoes/alden/29386f.html

 

It’s no secret that we love shell cordovan, and since the Dover is one of our favorite shoes, we decided to combine the two to create these unlined color 8 bluchers. They’re on the comfortable flex soles, which give them the added versatility of being slightly dressier than shoes with rubber soles. If you’re a fan of Alden’s classic PT blucher, these Dovers are the logical next step.


Edited by tampatravel - 11/20/13 at 9:29am
post #66764 of 99196

Damn, that's nice!

post #66765 of 99196
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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post
 

I completely agree, Alcibiades. Alden seems to do best with their cordovan finishing, followed by their cxl offerings and suede. I do like the casual calfskin pieces, but I have noticed that they are just not as supple as even an Allen Edmonds (I won't get banned for saying this, right?!). For example, I have the AE Rutledge in burnished walnut or whatever it's called; despite the two pairs being of a similar hue, there is no comparison between the softness of the Rutledge (which feels like it molds to one's foot) and the feel of the JC Alden tobacco lwb (which to this day--after close to 25 wearings) still asks my foot to yield to it, rather than molding to my movements. Similarly, my Church Hill Indys are neat looking boots, but I expect them to be squeaky for the next several months (although I do have enough of a rotation that these don't get worn more than once every several weeks).

 

I have yet to try calfskin from higher end companies like C&J, Vass and EG. But Christmas is coming and I think I'm finally going to pull the trigger on some Westminsters in dark oak calf :)

 

Not dumping on Alden, just trying to be nuanced in how I understand what they do best and what they are just ok at. Curious to hear others' experience with stock non-shell models...  

 

I only own Allen Edmonds shoes so cannot directly compare with Alden, but I did want to point out that AE's Rutledge is part of their Independence Collection, which is their higher end (and higher priced) version of calfskin. Independence line shoes differ from other AEs by their "Lined premium burnished calfskin leather upper with ultra-soft lambskin lining" and "Bi-color sole with wheeled edges and bi-color heel". That said, all accounts I have read agree with you that the leather is simply amazing.

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