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Originally Posted by Dr. D View Post

When I step back and contemplate my shoe wardrobe, I realize that I could live a very content life with only a pair of color 8 LHS and a pair of color 8 LWB. While I certainly enjoy my other Aldens in various shades of brown, there is just something classically right about these two Alden designs in a deep burgundy. To my eye they are the epitome of classic American shoe design and are the only ones I would not want to be without.

I'm reminded of this post:
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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne View Post

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A PSA of sorts:

Stopping in Albany, NY on my way to visit relatives in NJ a little over a week ago, I dropped by Joe and Robert Amore's shop to check out their selection of Aldens. Unfortunately, they didn't have what I wanted in stock, but Robert gladly placed a special order for me and everything arrived at his shop a few days later. I picked up my purchases on my drive back through town about a week later...

Amore Clothing has more Aldens in store than what's displayed online and Robert can order any stock Alden from the catalog (no special makeups afaik), provided they are in stock at Alden.

Here's the good great part: #8 LHS are $499 and LWB are $525. In fact, they offer all their Alden shoes at very competitive prices. Robert explains that thanks to lower operating costs, they're able to pass along some savings to their customers. Awesome.

I encourage everyone to support this local business and recommend you e-mail Robert to check stock/availability before placing an order. Don't hesitate to mention that you read about them here; I promised Robert that I'd spread the word about their great customer service.


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^ He sold his LHS a while ago.
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does alden do toplift heel replacement?
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post


Whoa doc, bordering on TL;DR.
Anyway, to answer the bolded question, you'd be a fool not to. I like Alden because they fairly closely intersect with my personal aesthetic. But so do Tricker's and C&J. And to a lesser degree, Carmina and AS. I've got a couple pairs of Lobbs and EG but the main thing with them is that I just don't wear them that often. I rarely wear suits so I have few balmorals.

Don't tell anyone, but sometimes I even wear Gucci loafers and like them.

 

Thanks for your reply, zippyh. To paraphrase the sentiment from (I believe) Twain, I didn't have time to write you three clean, concise sentences, so I wrote several paragraphs. Sorry for being so long-winded! I think I'm basically trying to understand how to approach two questions: 1. When are you folks employing Trickers, C&J, Carmina and AS instead of Alden? (do you feel one brand is more suited, for example, to a rugged, slubby selvedge denim? Is a brand like Carmina something you turn to for a more European look?

 

For the record, my stepfather is fond of wearing Gucci loafers with a suit. I find it endearing and feel myself in no position to judge, as I was sporting a whole closet full of Kenneth Cole shoes just over a couple years ago...

 

PS, please let me extend a very public thank you to you for all of your help with the Belstaff Roadmaster purchase. The jacket is so handy and versatile; it's made me much more fond of each and every pair of Alden boots! 

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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I enjoy Alden in part because they do not try to be anything more than what they are, they stick to what they do well. Aside from dub monks, there isn't much else I would like to see from them beyond what they currently offer. I think Alden offers something to address nearly all style "needs". I also recognize the quality and aesthetics of other manufactures. I enjoy EG among others. Both offer excellent products and fill a need in the market place.

The EG Galway is a tough boot to top by anyone. However the majority of my boots are Alden shell. Different looks for different folks.

 

Is EG really worth the additional cost over Alden? I'm still having a hard time figuring out how I'd wear a Galway without it looking like an affectation or costume. No offense intended to Galway owners, just not sure if I can rock the English countryside look as a young-looking Asian fella... 

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Originally Posted by mdubs View Post


I am with you on the double monks and have been eyeing the Epaulet Carmina Salingers for quite a while.

I have mainly Aldens, AEs, and C&J. I have not been willing to go all out on EG or John Lobbs, although they are very appealing as well.

-Mike

 

Hi Mike. I was eyeing the Carmina Salingers for over 6 months, but, of course, ended up waiting too long and can now only drool after models for which my size is unavailable :( I'm curious about folks' opinion on the best double monks for the money. Also, is the Alden single monk worth considering or do you find it hard to identify in terms of its intended use? 

 

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Originally Posted by Resistant View Post
 

EG's

John Lobbs

C&J

 

Great shoes stiffer - leather sole than Alden - all have casual / formal look 

 

G&G's too formal for any suit I could pair them with

 

Only monks I have are double strap Grenson and never thought I would go there, but the comfort of a monk strap is on a loafer level . Then picked-up Grenson Zero caps in black 

 

Awsome Vass pre-order @ Epaulet also the best double monks are same place

Thanks for the tips on the Vass via Ep. Epaulet is one of the good guys for sure. Great customer service.

 

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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post
 

I tried telling you this in the beginning, but I guess some things you just have to learn for yourself.

 

I don't think you have to stick to just Alden, the same as I think its dumb when people buy a pair of shoes for the mere fact that "Alden" is stamped on the insole.  (or when people buy a rare-make up in the wrong size and stuff tissue paper in the front of the toe and use insoles and heel pads and tongue pads and wear two pairs of thick wool socks to "make it work", just so they can wear an exclusive make-up)

 

With every additional shoe that you buy, the marginal benefit from that additional pair decreases.  (Law of diminishing returns)  You're probably beyond the point of a well-rounded and useful collection, but if you enjoy shoes, keep going.

 

If I see a shoe that I like (regardless of brand), and I think that I would get enough use and enjoyment out of it to justify the cost, then I buy it.  The key is to be honest with yourself about whether you will really wear the shoe enough, or want it bad enough to justify the $700 or however much it may be.  Conversely, sometimes you have to admit that it is just the shoe of the week that you think about buying while you are bored at work.

 

I have bought a lot of Aldens because I like shell cordovan, have plain taste, and don't like narrow shoes.

Thanks for being patient with me, Bakes. I'm a slow learner :embar:

 

You're right, once you're beyond 20 Aldens and other nice shoes, it's probably not so much about practicality. I agree that it's important to be real with yourself about exactly why you're buying the shoe. It might be interesting to have us post pics of our collections and discuss "most practical" or "most potentially versatile"-oriented plans for future acquisitions. Anyone interested?

 

I like shell cordovan and the look of simple classics. I do sometimes wish we talked about calfskin, kudu, tobacco chamois and suede a bit more. Are there closeted calf lovers here?

 

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Originally Posted by Dr. D View Post

When I step back and contemplate my shoe wardrobe, I realize that I could live a very content life with only a pair of color 8 LHS and a pair of color 8 LWB. While I certainly enjoy my other Aldens in various shades of brown, there is just something classically right about these two Alden designs in a deep burgundy. To my eye they are the epitome of classic American shoe design and are the only ones I would not want to be without.

Interesting. After getting my wife and kids to safety, I'm not sure which Aldens I'd attempt to rescue from a fire. I'd say it's a tie between the cigar and color 8 lwbs for a shoe for dressing up (to a certain point) and down, and then perhaps a chromexcel indy for knockabout purposes.

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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post

Thanks for your reply, zippyh. To paraphrase the sentiment from (I believe) Twain, I didn't have time to write you three clean, concise sentences, so I wrote several paragraphs. Sorry for being so long-winded! I think I'm basically trying to understand how to approach two questions: 1. When are you folks employing Trickers, C&J, Carmina and AS instead of Alden? (do you feel one brand is more suited, for example, to a rugged, slubby selvedge denim? Is a brand like Carmina something you turn to for a more European look?

For the record, my stepfather is fond of wearing Gucci loafers with a suit. I find it endearing and feel myself in no position to judge, as I was sporting a whole closet full of Kenneth Cole shoes just over a couple years ago...

PS, please let me extend a very public thank you to you for all of your help with the Belstaff Roadmaster purchase. The jacket is so handy and versatile; it's made me much more fond of each and every pair of Alden boots! 

Is EG really worth the additional cost over Alden? I'm still having a hard time figuring out how I'd wear a Galway without it looking like an affectation or costume. No offense intended to Galway owners, just not sure if I can rock the English countryside look as a young-looking Asian fella... 

Hi Mike. I was eyeing the Carmina Salingers for over 6 months, but, of course, ended up waiting too long and can now only drool after models for which my size is unavailable frown.gif I'm curious about folks' opinion on the best double monks for the money. Also, is the Alden single monk worth considering or do you find it hard to identify in terms of its intended use? 

Thanks for the tips on the Vass via Ep. Epaulet is one of the good guys for sure. Great customer service.

Thanks for being patient with me, Bakes. I'm a slow learner shog%5B1%5D.gif

You're right, once you're beyond 20 Aldens and other nice shoes, it's probably not so much about practicality. I agree that it's important to be real with yourself about exactly why you're buying the shoe. It might be interesting to have us post pics of our collections and discuss "most practical" or "most potentially versatile"-oriented plans for future acquisitions. Anyone interested?

I like shell cordovan and the look of simple classics. I do sometimes wish we talked about calfskin, kudu, tobacco chamois and suede a bit more. Are there closeted calf lovers here?

Interesting. After getting my wife and kids to safety, I'm not sure which Aldens I'd attempt to rescue from a fire. I'd say it's a tie between the cigar and color 8 lwbs for a shoe for dressing up (to a certain point) and down, and then perhaps a chromexcel indy for knockabout purposes.

I only read your response to my portion. I loved the Alden single monks for a long time. I intended to get them and went to Alden DC to pick them up, tried them on and just didn't feel the connection with them that I was expecting. I got my Color 8 Chukkas on that visit.

I feel that the double monk with the cap toe is more my pace if I were to get a pair of monks. Unfortunately, Alden doesn't making double monks, the Salingers look like a beautiful alternative. Also considering an MTO shell of the AE Mora 2. Maybe in burgundy shell with rolled edges, independence sole and lining. Need to try them on first though.

-Mike
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Docalden,
I would recommend Carmina sallingers double monks via Epaulet. I have them in saddle shell, they are nice. The fit is tricky, I wear USA 10.5, my monks are 9.5.
Carmina lasts are more narrow and dressy than alden. I don't wear suits, so I don't wear my Carminas as often.
Alden finishes their shell better than Carmina, c&j, and allen edmonds.
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post


The Gianni is blowing up the C&J for RL thread.  They look great, but without having seen either up front and personal, I would go with this boot first every day of the week and twice on Tuesdays!
Thanks rtp. I purchased the Giannis but have not decided if I'm going to keep them. I'll try to snap some side by side photos soon.
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Originally Posted by mcarthur View Post

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nephew,

looking good
Thanks uncle. Nice looking loafers today.
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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post

Docalden,
I would recommend Carmina sallingers double monks via Epaulet. I have them in saddle shell, they are nice. The fit is tricky, I wear USA 10.5, my monks are 9.5.
Carmina lasts are more narrow and dressy than alden. I don't wear suits, so I don't wear my Carminas as often.
Alden finishes their shell better than Carmina, c&j, and allen edmonds.

Gah! Those were the exact ones that I was contemplating for months. :-/

Nice pick up! I agree on finishing. But C&J and AE have really been improving. My recent acquisitions from both have been much nicer shell quality than they used to sell.

-Mike
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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post

Thanks rtp. I purchased the Giannis but have not decided if I'm going to keep them. I'll try to snap some side by side photos soon.
Thanks uncle. Nice looking loafers today.

I posted a few pics of mine last week. PM me if you want me to send them to you. I will take more next week when I am back in the office on my normal table. :-)

They are really a beautiful boot. It's kind of like an Indy boot mixed with a full strap loafer (tighter stitching) in the color of the Marlow.

-Mike
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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post

Docalden,
I would recommend Carmina sallingers double monks via Epaulet. I have them in saddle shell, they are nice. The fit is tricky, I wear USA 10.5, my monks are 9.5.
Carmina lasts are more narrow and dressy than alden. I don't wear suits, so I don't wear my Carminas as often.
Alden finishes their shell better than Carmina, c&j, and allen edmonds.

Thank you, MrDV, for your reply. Ep's Carmina salingers were the first DM model I considered. All they have left in the models in which I am interested is unfortunately the UK 8.5/ US 9.5. I'm a Barrie 8.5D/9D TTS. It's delusional to think that I could pull that off, right?

 

Trying to think of which Alden last would best suit a double monk. Plaza? Aberdeen? Hampton?

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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post

Thank you, MrDV, for your reply. Ep's Carmina salingers were the first DM model I considered. All they have left in the models in which I am interested is unfortunately the UK 8.5/ US 9.5. I'm a Barrie 8.5D/9D TTS. It's delusional to think that I could pull that off, right?

Trying to think of which Alden last would best suit a double monk. Plaza? Aberdeen? Hampton?

Plaza probably, then Aberdeen?

-Mike
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Originally Posted by mdubs View Post


Plaza probably, then Aberdeen?

-Mike

I know this sounds crazy, but what about Grant for the roundish toe (but not such a bulbous last as Barrie or Tru), instead of Plaza, whose pointier, squared off toe puts some people off for a DM.

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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post
 

I know this sounds crazy, but what about Grant for the roundish toe (but not such a bulbous last as Barrie or Tru), instead of Plaza, whose pointier, squared off toe puts some people off for a DM.

 

was going to say Grant

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My last purchases
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Originally Posted by mdubs View Post

Okay, changed my mind and decided to deliver early sans the PTB because my wife was reading through the grocery ads... Here is the comparison that you are looking for, plus I added Ravello (new and old) into the mix for fun.
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From left to right: Alden Ravello LHS (old Ravello), Alden Ravello LWB (new Ravello), Allen Edmonds Walnut Shell Strands, Alden Whiskey LWB (sorry, didn't brush first).

Hope that this scratches your itch!

Thanks,
Mike

Wow, and I thought the fearsome foursome was impressive. That's quite the intimidating front four you have there. Thanks for the pic.

Quick follow-up. How do you like the fit/feel of the AE Strands?
Edited by Shawnc - 11/6/13 at 3:38am
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