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post #61996 of 87356
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Originally Posted by neutrino View Post
 

 

:D Immediately reminded me of this Amazon review. Tifosi, congrats with the purchase!

 

I have a seemingly noobish question. If we take a last that is rather universally acclaimed as a 'TTS - 0.5' (TruB, Modified - not saying Barrie since there are rare cases of guys going TTS in it) - why wouldn't the maker shift the whole scale up half a size and make things easier for everyone? Does a last have any formal parameters implying that a particular size of this last should be marked as such-and-such a size (e.g. a 9.5)? Sorry if I'm being too naive here :satisfied:

 

 

There are no words for that Amazon review... :puzzled:

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post #61997 of 87356
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post

I've thought the same thing before about sizing.  I suppose by shifting the sizing scale half a size up to meet the brannock sizing, length may work but the width may pose a problem... not really sure??? 

It could be a matter of precedence. Wikipedia says that the Brannock device prototype was patented in 1926. Alden was already in existence at this point. Whether or not they utilized the same lasts that far back is another matter though.
post #61998 of 87356
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Originally Posted by sazon View Post

Did a little rubbing with a soft cloth (pic 1), then used a little wax polish and brushed off (pic 2)
I think with more brushing tomorrow I can get it even better, but for me, its fine as it is.


I actually heard my GF telling her BGF that I was texting "my little friends" on a website devoted to shoes, OMG, and they were talking about a guy who got, wait for it, a scuffed shoe. (Insert maniacal female cackling here). Great job on your shoes sazon! You never know what you might have to do to make money.
post #61999 of 87356

Hi gang. First post here and a weird question...

 

I have a pair plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando from Leffot/Alden that fit me perfectly in 8E even though they have just started to break in. Best shoes ever owned. Especially that...:

 

I also have a pair of the AF43 (plain toe boots on Trubalance/cordovan/commando) in the same size that, after a year and especially after wearing the above shoes, don't fit me well. In short the heel is shaped differently and because the Trubalance are wider my foot uncomfortably places itself towards the front of the shoe after a while.

 

Adam from Alden of Carmel is :paranoia:refusing me to sell me the AF89 (plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando) in 8E because he says that if the Trubalance (cordovan) don't fit me in 8E there is no way the Barrie (calfskin) will fit me in 8E.

 

"We believe the problem is you want to avoid wearing a larger size, so you are requesting a size that is too small.   You won’t be happy with size 8 1/2 E, and you are not happy with size 8 E because it is too tight.   You will not be happy with any size we send."

 

WTF? Is it inconceivable that Barrie and Trubalance fit someone differently and that "bigger" doesn't necessarily mean better? 8.5 is way too big for me in Barrie/Trubalance.

 

 

And where else can I purchase Barrie/calfskin plain toe boots... in 8E...? I don't mind getting on a waiting list... as much as I need black shoes, and I already have chromexel,  I would contemplate different colors...

 

It's a weird situation that I don't entirely get myself  and to be frank I am a bit annoyed.

:fu:

post #62000 of 87356
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Originally Posted by virilio View Post
 

Hi gang. First post here and a weird question...

 

I have a pair plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando from Leffot/Alden that fit me perfectly in 8E even though they have just started to break in. Best shoes ever owned. Especially that...:

 

I also have a pair of the AF43 (plain toe boots on Trubalance/cordovan/commando) in the same size that, after a year and especially after wearing the above shoes, don't fit me well. In short the heel is shaped differently and because the Trubalance are wider my foot uncomfortably places itself towards the front of the shoe after a while.

 

Adam from Alden of Carmel is :paranoia:refusing me to sell me the AF89 (plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando) in 8E because he says that if the Trubalance (cordovan) don't fit me in 8E there is no way the Barrie (calfskin) will fit me in 8E.

 

"We believe the problem is you want to avoid wearing a larger size, so you are requesting a size that is too small.   You won’t be happy with size 8 1/2 E, and you are not happy with size 8 E because it is too tight.   You will not be happy with any size we send."

 

WTF? Is it inconceivable that Barrie and Trubalance fit someone differently and that "bigger" doesn't necessarily mean better? 8.5 is way too big for me in Barrie/Trubalance.

 

 

And where else can I purchase Barrie/calfskin plain toe boots... in 8E...? I don't mind getting on a waiting list... as much as I need black shoes, and I already have chromexel,  I would contemplate different colors...

 

It's a weird situation that I don't entirely get myself  and to be frank I am a bit annoyed.

:fu:

 

This is kind of mind-blowing.  Not sure if he is doing you a favor, or a disservice.  I wonder who "we" is?

post #62001 of 87356
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Originally Posted by BeSpiffington View Post

I actually heard my GF telling her BGF that I was texting "my little friends" on a website devoted to shoes, OMG, and they were talking about a guy who got, wait for it, a scuffed shoe. (Insert maniacal female cackling here). Great job on your shoes sazon! You never know what you might have to do to make money.

So it's not just me who has to deal with this on a daily basis confused.gif

We are apparently "...very cute posting pictures of our shoes for our daily show-and-tell"
post #62002 of 87356
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Originally Posted by blue collar View Post


So it's not just me who has to deal with this on a daily basis confused.gif

We are apparently "...very cute posting pictures of our shoes for our daily show-and-tell"

 

Your signature quote says it all.....

post #62003 of 87356
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post

+1,000

The one exception is the Leffot saddles which really requires an antique edge - but I don't know if I consider it a "color 8 shoe"
post #62004 of 87356
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Originally Posted by virilio View Post

Hi gang. First post here and a weird question...

I have a pair plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando from Leffot/Alden that fit me perfectly in 8E even though they have just started to break in. Best shoes ever owned. Especially that...:

I also have a pair of the AF43 (plain toe boots on Trubalance/cordovan/commando) in the same size that, after a year and especially after wearing the above shoes, don't fit me well. In short the heel is shaped differently and because the Trubalance are wider my foot uncomfortably places itself towards the front of the shoe after a while.

Adam from Alden of Carmel is patch%5B1%5D.gifrefusing me to sell me the AF89 (plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando) in 8E because he says that if the Trubalance (cordovan) don't fit me in 8E there is no way the Barrie (calfskin) will fit me in 8E.

"We believe the problem is you want to avoid wearing a larger size, so you are requesting a size that is too small.   You won’t be happy with size 8 1/2 E, and you are not happy with size 8 E because it is too tight.   You will not be happy with any size we send."

WTF? Is it inconceivable that Barrie and Trubalance fit someone differently and that "bigger" doesn't necessarily mean better? 8.5 is way too big for me in Barrie/Trubalance.


And where else can I purchase Barrie/calfskin plain toe boots... in 8E...? I don't mind getting on a waiting list... as much as I need black shoes, and I already have chromexel,  I would contemplate different colors...

It's a weird situation that I don't entirely get myself  and to be frank I am a bit annoyed.
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1) Are you saying the Trubalance boots are in effect too big? Barrie boots fit tighter than Trubalance boots, so it makes sense that 8E in Barrie would fit you better than 8E in Trubalance.

2) Some retailers are sensitive to sending wrong sizes and getting shoes returned. From what I have seen, AoC is among the most sensitive to this issue, so it is not really surprising they are hesitant to sell you the shoe.

3. Alden NYC / Alden DC / Alden SF should all have various models in 8E available. Not sure if they will have exactly what you want. Leffot and Context will let you preorder 8E.
post #62005 of 87356
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post

Tifosi, I love your logic and need to adopt it...  I'm saving $ by purchasing Shell cordovan boots by consequently not having to buy Chrmxl boots.  Thus I can buy another shell offering. You da man my friend! icon_gu_b_slayer%5B1%5D.gif
Amazing how I came up with a logic to convince myself to buy more shell, huh??? Shocking.
post #62006 of 87356
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Originally Posted by virilio View Post

Hi gang. First post here and a weird question...

I have a pair plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando from Leffot/Alden that fit me perfectly in 8E even though they have just started to break in. Best shoes ever owned. Especially that...:

I also have a pair of the AF43 (plain toe boots on Trubalance/cordovan/commando) in the same size that, after a year and especially after wearing the above shoes, don't fit me well. In short the heel is shaped differently and because the Trubalance are wider my foot uncomfortably places itself towards the front of the shoe after a while.

Adam from Alden of Carmel is patch%5B1%5D.gifrefusing me to sell me the AF89 (plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando) in 8E because he says that if the Trubalance (cordovan) don't fit me in 8E there is no way the Barrie (calfskin) will fit me in 8E.

"We believe the problem is you want to avoid wearing a larger size, so you are requesting a size that is too small.   You won’t be happy with size 8 1/2 E, and you are not happy with size 8 E because it is too tight.   You will not be happy with any size we send."

WTF? Is it inconceivable that Barrie and Trubalance fit someone differently and that "bigger" doesn't necessarily mean better? 8.5 is way too big for me in Barrie/Trubalance.


And where else can I purchase Barrie/calfskin plain toe boots... in 8E...? I don't mind getting on a waiting list... as much as I need black shoes, and I already have chromexel,  I would contemplate different colors...

It's a weird situation that I don't entirely get myself  and to be frank I am a bit annoyed.
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I agree. If an 8E fits you well in Barrie, then I could see the same size in Trubalance AND in cordovan being a bit larger. 2 shoes on the same last, one in calf and one on cordovan will fit differently. Cordovan being slightly larger.
post #62007 of 87356
lol8[1].gif Adam at Alden of Carmel is one of the best Alden reseller trolls around. He is in a league of his own.
post #62008 of 87356

Hi, this is my first post.

 

I recently picked up a pair of burgundy bluchers 2nds from the Shoemart. They were made on the modified last. I fit really well in a 9D in my 403 Indy boot but I knew the Barrie last wasn't for me because I needed a deeper heel cup since I have custom orthotics. I ordered a 9D in the modified last but I think they might be a half size too big. Unfortunately I also think that I have too much vamp crease to return them. In any case, here they are:  I really like them, and I can barely notice the defect, which only appears to be a small mark on the side of the shoe that is completely unnoticeable while standing. 

 

post #62009 of 87356

@Alcibiades

 

The question is why would the Leffot PT Boots/Barrie/calfskin/commando fit differently than the AF89/Barrie/calfskin/commando in the same size?

 

If there's some factor I am not aware of, I would like to know, because these Barrie/calfskin/commando/8E I'm wearing are damn perfect.

 

I'll try to answer your question, but 'tighter' is going to be tighter on each person's foot differently...

 

Both the Barrie and Trubalance fit me but:

 

1) the Barrie heel is more pronounced apparently, it makes my foot sit further back, and the shoe (not the sole but the shoe) is something like 1/4" longer or a bit less

2) the toe area of the Barrie is more bulbous and my toes are not cramped, whereas the more rounded shape of the Trubalance with my feet sitting more forward feels claustrophobic

3) the cordovan of the Trubalance makes this intolerable

 

In retrospect I would have passed on the AF43 or gotten them in 8.5E would have to wear them with thick socks, but that's because of the cordovan. 

I think it's completely wrong of Adam of Carmel and his high horse that helps him write his emails to assume I don't know what the hell I'm talking about and took these $600 decisions lightly.

 

I already talked to Alden NYC, but black plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin are going to be hard to come by anywhere. I don't want cap toes, cordovan or Indy.

 

Thanks for reading.

post #62010 of 87356
virilio,

I understand your frustration. I have not heard of a fit difference between calfskin boots and chromexcel boots in th same last. They should fit very similar in 8E.

You know your fit better than anyone else... If you really want the shoes, you could offer to buy them from AoC on a "no refunds allowed" basis, but it is unfortunate you even have to go there.
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