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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Honestly, this is why no one should pay more than $125 or $150 for a preorder, and why all preorders should be fully refundable (in the stock sizes). Stores like Context asking for full price for preorders make no sense. Even MTOs from companies like Edward Green only require a 50% deposit.

I am not excusing how Alden manages it retailers, but some of the preorder frustration has to be blamed on the retailer. From what I understand some retailers asked for full price for rare cordovan orders that were not confirmed - if so, they should offer full refunds while maintaining those customers' place on the preorder lists. Until orders are confirmed, I don't think there is no guarantee or even expectation that new models will be made. At least for stores like Alden NYC, SF, and DC, you simply call up and ask to be put on the list for shoes, no deposits necessary. Leffot takes preorder money only for confirmed shoes (though those Alden black longwings are taking a while...)

Well said...honestly for me the money down doesn't bother me as much as Alden's complete disregard to any sort of plan or schedule when it comes to a timeline for what gets made and which store gets it. Maybe internally they have a plan that makes sense, but as a customer I will never understand why some orders have been sitting there for years with no traction and then all of a sudden 3 different stores get shipments of a rare cordovan color that is supposed to be tapped out.

As for retailers, Epaulet has been more than understanding to all this. They did offer full refunds to anyone who pre-ordered, and they are so fed up with Alden that they just stopped taking pre-orders altogether. I should ask them if I could get my money back, but still be first in line when my size comes in. Although, that gets tricky when you're dealing with a non-stock size.
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post #60032 of 79362
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Based on my observations over the past year or two, "stock" rare models like PTB, chukkas, and longwings get replenished at stores like Alden NYC, Alden DC, Alden SF, and the Shoe Mart every year or so no matter what people are saying about shortages. Alden DC seems to be able to replenish its cigar captoes on somewhat of a regular basis, Alden NYC seems to be able to get some Indy boots here and there, etc. More custom group preorders and new models seem non-existent outside of a few one-offs (like the J Crew ravello LWB)

I wonder which category the Ravello Brixton falls under. It's not a "stock" model, but it is something they offered in the past. The last Ravello version came out around 2009 I think. And they've offered #8, Cigar, and Natty CXL versions since then.

And with my narrow feet, I'm almost always stuck trying to pre-order something in a narrow width, which usually ends up in more frustration for me than anything.
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Alden NY has a ravello ptb in 11.5D up for grabs, sadly they didn't order my size this time around. If anyone spots a 12D pair, please give me a shout out. 

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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee View Post
 

Alden NY has a ravello ptb in 11.5D up for grabs, sadly they didn't order my size this time around. If anyone spots a 12D pair, please give me a shout out. 

 

they did. I just grabbed it this morning (unless they have multiple pairs)

 

thanks for whomever put up the PSA.. this lessens the sting of not getting the LWB from DC :(

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Damn! I need bigger feet!!!
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If only Fransboone wasn't so in love with crepe, I'd have a couple pairs en route and id likely be done
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

If only Fransboone wasn't so in love with crepe, I'd have a couple pairs en route and id likely be done
Done...Ha! Good one!
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post


There is definitely BS going on --- depending on who you talk to and when, you get different stories from the same stores. I think a large part of it has to do w the fact that they have so many unconfirmed orders and no idea as to when - or whether - those orders will be confirmed. Could be a year - could be tomorrow. The shoes are already spoken for with a long list of alternate buyers. Then you factor in Alden's propensity to send half of what they asked for... They don't want to say all this. They just say "nope, no good for a year."

 

For what's its worth all of those orders that just got filled had been on the books for a long time from what I'm told.  I know I found out about the orders being confirmed around June and got my name on the list for the PTB, they did not get any LWB in my size.  I think each store got about 18 pairs.  I definitely understand the frustration for those who have been waiting a long time.  It's not right.

 

See Ya,

Steve

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Pretty frustrating when you think you are on a pre-order list for Ravello LWB's and two different PTB orders and somehow dont get a single pair...It is precisely these type of long waits and disappointments that have me looking at other brands and losing some of my Alden loyalty 

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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee View Post
 

Alden NY has a ravello ptb in 11.5D up for grabs, sadly they didn't order my size this time around. If anyone spots a 12D pair, please give me a shout out. 

I don't want to know this...but did you ask how much? :bounce2:

 

Man did I snooze and lose. There are always those Gunboats in Whiskey on eBay.......

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I don't want to know this...but did you ask how much? bounce2.gif
Most likely $730, but I believe they have been snapped up already...
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I am fairly sure back room deals take place or perhaps even worse retailers who only sell to the elite customers. I often wonder how much of a chance we actually have.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I am fairly sure back room deals take place or perhaps even worse retailers who only sell to the elite customers. I often wonder how much of a chance we actually have.

 

I totally agree with this. Alden SF had the audactiy yesterday to tell me that I was first on the list but that they didnt order an 8D. Yeah right...

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Where is Mac? Hasn't logged in for over 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I am fairly sure back room deals take place or perhaps even worse retailers who only sell to the elite customers. I often wonder how much of a chance we actually have.
This is the impression I got...people not selling to unknowns.

I am used to this in the luxury watch world. Would not have thought it happened in shoes. Although this "exotic shell shortage" reminds me of the 'elusive' stainless steel Rolex Daytona. Fabricated shortage to drive up demand...long lists of waiting customers and not being able to walk in off the street about buy it if you aren't one of the 'elite'.
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