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Originally Posted by mtc2000 View Post

It is very common with Alden #8 shells. In most cases, the uneven dyes are apparent only in very strong light. Brushing does not help. Some may consider it as a defect, but it is so common that I think Alden would consider it as normal. Though, I have yet to see similar issues with Bordeaux Cordovan shoes from Carmina, Vass, C&J, Wolverine or AE.

Although I agree with several of the folks here in terms of the commonality of those spots on #8, it still isn't on all of their shoes. I also agree with the fact that they are where the creases are going to form and thus will be less noticeable than if they were say on the toe. But the fact remains, that there is very low chance of it ever going away and you just spent a hefty chunk of change on them. So it's entirely up to you as to whether you are happy with them or not, if you are keep them enjoy them and love the way that they will mature with age. Otherwise return them to the Crew for an exchange or refund. Good luck!

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post #59777 of 87407
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Originally Posted by RevisIsland View Post

All,

Just got these in from Jcrew. Looks like these had an issue when they were dyed. Possible to brush this out or do I have to return them?

Thanks,

 

I have the same uneven dye on my #8 LWB and I also believe it is quite common on #8 shell from Alden.

You can only see that in certain angle and lighting only.

You can't brush that out either.

 

If I were you and no other defect found, I will keep it.

post #59778 of 87407
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Originally Posted by hkpm View Post
 

 

I have the same uneven dye on my #8 LWB and I also believe it is quite common on #8 shell from Alden.

You can only see that in certain angle and lighting only.

You can't brush that out either.

 

If I were you and no other defect found, I will keep it.

 

This is not common in my experience with color 8 shells.  It is a significant discoloration and it will not change.  I think it is completely unacceptable that retailer would hope it could pawn that off on someone. I have never seen a second from the ShoeMart that looks that bad.

 

Return them and either get a decent pair from J Crew or get color 8 LWB from anyone fthe many retailers who sell first quality Aldens when you pay first quality price  

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Originally Posted by aldenwear View Post

This is not common in my experience with color 8 shells.  It is a significant discoloration and it will not change.  I think it is completely unacceptable that retailer would hope it could pawn that off on someone. I have never seen a second from the ShoeMart that looks that bad.

Return them and either get a decent pair from J Crew or get color 8 LWB from anyone fthe many retailers who sell first quality Aldens when you pay first quality price  

Not trying to argue, but this is not much of discoloration but rather marks left from running dyes. Alden finish their dark color shell shoes with liquid dyes, as a way to even out the color variations and imperfections inherent in shell Cordovan. Frequently, the application of the dye is not perfectly even, leaving behind these marks.

Examine a few pairs of dark color shell Alden in very strong light (e.g. direct sun light), and you should see varying degrees of imperfections.

I am not saying that it is acceptable. Ultimately, it is the consumer's decision. BTW, an alternative option is to complain directly to Alden. I am pretty sure they will fix the issue for free, by applying more dyes to cover up the marks.
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

More #8 captoe love:


Alden 4060 #8 shell
Makes we want to wear my 4060s. I wish it wasn't going to be 94degrees today... I think I'll be breaking them back out this weekend as it is going to cool off considerably.
post #59781 of 87407
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Originally Posted by mtc2000 View Post


Not trying to argue, but this is not much of discoloration but rather marks left from running dyes. Alden finish their dark color shell shoes with liquid dyes, as a way to even out the color variations and imperfections inherent in shell Cordovan. Frequently, the application of the dye is not perfectly even, leaving behind these marks.

Examine a few pairs of dark color shell Alden in very strong light (e.g. direct sun light), and you should see varying degrees of imperfections.

I am not saying that it is acceptable. Ultimately, it is the consumer's decision. BTW, an alternative option is to complain directly to Alden. I am pretty sure they will fix the issue for free, by applying more dyes to cover up the marks.

 

I appreciate your explanation of the process.  I guess I have been lucky over the years:  I have never run into this despite seeing and owning a number of pair of color 8 cordovan shoes.  Running dye or discoloration, the process in this instance lead to a notable result in this particular pair of shoes.    

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I love the snuff suede chukka vastly underrated. A solid staple for sure.

Agree, I wear mine all summer and very comfortable.

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Thanks to all for the responses. I really appreciate it! I may go with the suede chukka for more casual wear, but I really like the Cooney. I don't think my feet will get too cold in the unlined chukka with some warm socks, since it rarely gets real cold in SC.
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

haven't seen this awhile, so I figured I'd put it up and ask..

top 3 grails that you don't yet own but would buy if they became available...

pics included in possible..

my three Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

1. ravello brixton 


2. ravello chukka, either plaza or barrie 



3.  cigar LWB.     

I have #1 and #3 on order with Epaulet right now. Once these come in I probably won't be ordering any more rare shell from Alden.
Edited by Beatlegeuse - 9/11/13 at 6:22am
post #59784 of 87407
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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

haven't seen this awhile, so I figured I'd put it up and ask..

top 3 grails that you don't yet own but would buy if they became available...

pics included in possible..

my three

1. ravello brixton

2. ravello chukka, either plaza or barrie 

3.  cigar LWB.    

My first two Alden shell purchases were the Ravello Wingtip boot and the Cigar LWB both from TSM.




I also have the Allen Edmond Chukka (Dundee) in cappuccino shell that is in between ravello and cigar


All of these shoes get plenty of wear!
post #59785 of 87407
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Originally Posted by Pastor View Post

My first two Alden shell purchases were the Ravello Wingtip boot and the Cigar LWB both from TSM.




I also have the Allen Edmond Chukka (Dundee) in cappuccino shell that is in between ravello and cigar


All of these shoes get plenty of wear!
Nice lineup you have there, Pastor. I'm am looking quite forward to my cappuccino Dundees.
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jcrew saddles + red socks for team usa

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Suede shortwings today

 

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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post
 

jcrew saddles + red socks for team usa

 


Those are some sharp saddles.  These are ours and we have some on sale.

post #59789 of 87407
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post


thank you sir. i have 2 color #8 captoe boots, the other being jcrew captoe. I think once the jcrew captoe is due for a resole, ill ask b.nelson to switch out the edge trim and welt stitching to match leffot naval boot

Interesting plan.  The Naval boot looks pretty nice, but I think I prefer the J Crew boot as is.  However, with all of the color 8 that I have, it might be nice to have one with the antique edge.

post #59790 of 87407
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post

Interesting plan.  The Naval boot looks pretty nice, but I think I prefer the J Crew boot as is.  However, with all of the color 8 that I have, it might be nice to have one with the antique edge.
I really dig the naval boot. I hope to get my feet on a pair, soon. I'd wear them for strictly casual with denim and I'd use my 4060 cap toes for less casual dress.
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