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post #54151 of 87550

I'm looking to pick up my first pair of shell Aldens and was eyeing the antique edge #8 PTBs from the Bureau Belfast for a little while but have decided to go in the opposite direction color-wise if it exists.  Are any of you aware of a retailer who stocks a 990 with a black welt stitch rather than the tan one found on most?  I've haven't had much luck searching the thread and many retailer websites have very low res pictures that make it difficult to tell.  I do realize I could call them myself to ask but if somebody here knows that would certainly make it a lot easier.

 

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Originally Posted by mcarthur View Post

whiskey ptb
argyles otc

Uncle, great looking whiskey ptbs.
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Originally Posted by tsekh View Post

Pre-ordered the Alden X J Crew waxed longwing (CXL) and it finally arrived today. Unfortunately it came with a cut in the right shoe near the ankle...



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I don't think that cut would be a deal breaker for me. You may want to keep them as long as you're ok with them not being the advertised cxl.
post #54153 of 87550
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Originally Posted by Beatlegeuse View Post

$725 for Color 8! Yikes....if there was an exotic shell version of these they would be close to $800.

what an amazing boot though. lovvvrrr everything about it
post #54154 of 87550
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post

I tried to buy some shells from Horweens retail outlet . None available

not even in black shell? what does "none available" even mean? alden has a 1 year cigar shortage, vass has a 1 year cognac shell shortage, horween factory appears to be short on even the most uninspired shell color, black. All this while Carmina continues to roll out shell shoes like it was going out of style:

Cognac Boot, Cognac Wingtip, Dark Cognac Boot, Dark Cognac Wingtip, Cognac PTB, Dark Cognac PTB, Saddle shell Boot, Saddle shell ptb, wingtip, burgundy shell, ruby shell, navy shell, black shell, green shell. loafer, punchcap, monkstrap, jodhpur, all in shell, all in a 2 month turnaround

why the hell is Alden always short on shell?
post #54155 of 87550
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

not even in black shell? what does not available even mean?
It means they dont have any to sell me . Didn't ask about black . They have chips only which are essentially scraps . Im making wallets so they will actually work for me but this is the first time I've ever been unable to buy any shells
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

not even in black shell? what does "none available" even mean? alden has a 1 year cigar shortage, vass has a 1 year cognac
shell shortage, horween factory appears
to be short on even the most uninspired shell color, black. All this while Carmina continues to roll out shell shoes like it was going out of style:
Cognac Boot, Cognac Wingtip, Dark Cognac Boot, Dark Cognac Wingtip, Cognac PTB, Dark Cognac PTB, Saddle shell Boot,
Saddle shell ptb, wingtip, burgundy shell, ruby shell, navy shell, black shell, green shell. loafer, punchcap, monkstrap, jodhpur, all in shell, all in
a 2 month turnaround

why the hell is Alden always short on shell?

I was advised that Carmina has an exceptional backstock of shell. I also tend to think that not as many people looked Carmina's way until Alden's shell started to dry up.
post #54157 of 87550
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I was advised that Carmina has an exceptional backstock of shell. I also tend to think that not as many people looked Carmina's way until Alden's shell started to dry up.

you have a point
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

not even in black shell? what does "none available" even mean? alden has a 1 year cigar shortage, vass has a 1 year cognac shell shortage, horween factory appears to be short on even the most uninspired shell color, black. All this while Carmina continues to roll out shell shoes like it was going out of style:

Cognac Boot, Cognac Wingtip, Dark Cognac Boot, Dark Cognac Wingtip, Cognac PTB, Dark Cognac PTB, Saddle shell Boot, Saddle shell ptb, wingtip, burgundy shell, ruby shell, navy shell, black shell, green shell. loafer, punchcap, monkstrap, jodhpur, all in shell, all in a 2 month turnaround

why the hell is Alden always short on shell?

Amen. Not that I'm complaining about Carmina having relatively better product.
post #54159 of 87550

Newbie question here, my first time receiving TSM seconds list.

 

It only says the last and leather type. But the "code" doesnt tell me what model or how the shoe looks like.

 

I tried inputting the code in TSM website but nothing.

 

Example: FD-2160, Color 8, Aberdeen Last

 

I get the last type and color 8 part. But i have no idea how the shoe looks like.

 

Anyone can help?

post #54160 of 87550
Get rid of FD and use only 2160

See Ya,
Steve
post #54161 of 87550
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Originally Posted by takashi78 View Post

Newbie question here, my first time receiving TSM seconds list.

 

It only says the last and leather type. But the "code" doesnt tell me what model or how the shoe looks like.

 

I tried inputting the code in TSM website but nothing.

 

Example: FD-2160, Color 8, Aberdeen Last

 

I get the last type and color 8 part. But i have no idea how the shoe looks like.

 

Anyone can help?

The emails most of us get from them come with embedded pictures of the shoes. 

post #54162 of 87550
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

Amen. Not that I'm complaining about Carmina having relatively better product.

I have not found this to be the case at all.
post #54163 of 87550
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

The emails most of us get from them come with embedded pictures of the shoes. 

the pictures are real too bad the shoes aren't.
post #54164 of 87550
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I was advised that Carmina has an exceptional backstock of shell. I also tend to think that not as many people looked Carmina's way until Alden's shell started to dry up.

I agree with this statement. In my opinion Carmina "currently" makes far fewer pairs of Shell shoes than Alden. Give it a while and they will be short too. If Carmina has what you want...get it while the getting is good.

I think Horween is in a pickle, they can't get shell right now, and I don't see this getting fixed anytime soon, if ever. The demand exceeds supply for shell, the USA limits horse slaughter. Outside the USA, far fewer regulations on horse slaughter, but I don't know how many horses are available?

To take this a step further...Alden, and likely Allen Edmonds shortly if not already are in deep poop. You got retailers screaming about shell orders not filled for 2 years, demand far exceeds what Alden can produce...even in regular styles of leather! Alden retailers are screwed, can't make money if you can't get product. Allen Edmonds is now 3 months out on shell, that's for black and burgundy shell. If they have not stopped brown, they will soon. I'm waiting on a brown shell belt and shoes for 10 weeks so far.

Carmina has very few retailers in the USA and those that do, few if any stock shell. I see Carmina having a great window to capture short term market share, but they will run out of shell too.

I don't see Horween breaking ties with their main 2 buyers, Alden and AE. It's a storm we have to ride out. However I doubt we will see anything but black and #8 in any large amounts. I think Cigar, Ravello, and Whiskey will be ultra rare, if available at all. What little is available will be pre-sold and pre-paid and the average guy will be out of luck.

My advice...buy it now if its out there, and there are a few pairs not advertised to be had, but you will have to dig,call, pester, and ask the right questions.

Sorry for the long post.

See Ya,
Steve
post #54165 of 87550

I really do not believe the picture is as bleak as some are painting it and there is a bit of hype going on. Everyone screams from the rafters THERE IS NO SHELL, yet every month we are seeing orders both hit the market and get confirmed. There is always going to be a bit of an ebb and flow to this. One could take it a step further and say that there is no better way for company's to increase profits than to constrain the supply chain and then strategically release product as needed at a premium price. I would just every to exercise patience as makes and models do become available. Yes, you need to be plugged in and act quickly but they are there to be had. Hell, the guy with the long rant I think owned no shell like 90 days ago and now probably has close to 20 pairs...

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