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I agree here. Unless you have quite a bit of expendable income, the random suede varietals can be had for less than a quarter of Aldens. I just got some blue suede with red brick soles from Lands End at 40% off, they are goodyear welted, I will wear them probably fewer than 10 times/year, and 99.9% of the populous will deem them as "nice" - even though they are not nice compared to the Aldens.

Plus, bucks should be beaten to hell. They begin looking excellent when they are dirty - hence the name, right ? (I'm just assuming here)

All Aldens are goodyear welted, no?

Their called bucks because that style of shoe was originally made from deer skin.

I don't believe any Aldens are not Goodyear welted. Not sure though.


I think he was referring to the "dirty" tag when he mentioned "name."  They are indeed called dirty bucks because that color of brown looks like a white suede buck gone dirty.  They are also called bucks bc of the deer skin that was used for this particular style back in the day.  Later gents...

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I think he was referring to the "dirty" tag when he mentioned "name."  They are indeed called dirty bucks because that color of brown looks like a white suede buck gone dirty.  They are also called bucks bc of the deer skin that was used for this particular style back in the day.  Later gents...

interesting. they're snuff suede-i've never heard snuff suede referred to as looking like white suede that is dirty. 

post #50148 of 99264
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

interesting. they're snuff suede-i've never heard snuff suede referred to as looking like white suede that is dirty. 
Did it not occur to you that perhaps what was once called dirty buck is now referred to as snuff suede
post #50149 of 99264
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Did it not occur to you that perhaps what was once called dirty buck is now referred to as snuff suede

that's what i said. 

post #50150 of 99264
Many years ago bucks were considered dressy shoes that were only sold in white. You use a small chalk bag to touch them up so they would stay white. Back in the 60s it was a fashion statement to have worn your bucks so long they turned tan and dirty (just like wearing loafers with duct tape). After a while they started selling tan bucks as "dirty" ones without having to wear them to attain that shade. Not unlike pre-worn denim nowadays.

To my eye true dirty bucks are closer to the color of Alden's tan suede. Snuff suede is too dark and golden. I love my unlined snuff LHS but they are just not the right shade for oxfords.

I can see both sides of the argument on bucks: if you wear them sockless as summer beaters then the cheaper versions with the brick red soles (I like the ones from Sherman Brothers) are a good choice. However, if you want them to look sharp and pair them with denim, khakis, reds, seersucker, etc. then Alden unlined PTBs with the flex soles are great.
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Just bought these a week ago.  I actually enjoy them a lot more than my snuff PTBs from Alden of San Fran.  Very comfy, cool, and really bridges the gap between sneaker and non-sneaker casual shoe. 

 

Best, 

Louis

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post


As usual with J Crew, the problem with this model is that it is lined. Outside of a few exceptions (lomgwings, Indy boots), I think Alden suede is better unlined
 

i actually think i prefer lined suede. i tried the unlined suede chukkas and they felt a bit too light and slipper-like and non supportive of the toes. 

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I think he was referring to the "dirty" tag when he mentioned "name."  They are indeed called dirty bucks because that color of brown looks like a white suede buck gone dirty.  They are also called bucks bc of the deer skin that was used for this particular style back in the day.  Later gents...

interesting. they're snuff suede-i've never heard snuff suede referred to as looking like white suede that is dirty. 


Actually snuff suede, is a slightly darker color than those that are traditionally called dirty bucks, but the concept is still the same.

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Originally Posted by LouisCr View Post

Just bought these a week ago.  I actually enjoy them a lot more than my snuff PTBs from Alden of San Fran.  Very comfy, cool, and really bridges the gap between sneaker and non-sneaker casual shoe. 

 

Best, 

Louis

thanks for the input. i think i may like them a lot too. 

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Many years ago bucks were considered dressy shoes that were only sold in white. You use a small chalk bag to touch them up so they would stay white. Back in the 60s it was a fashion statement to have worn your bucks so long they turned tan and dirty (just like wearing loafers with duct tape). After a while they started selling tan bucks as "dirty" ones without having to wear them to attain that shade. Not unlike pre-worn denim nowadays.

To my eye true dirty bucks are closer to the color of Alden's tan suede. Snuff suede is too dark and golden. I love my unlined snuff LHS but they are just not the right shade for oxfords.

I can see both sides of the argument on bucks: if you wear them sockless as summer beaters then the cheaper versions with the brick red soles (I like the ones from Sherman Brothers) are a good choice. However, if you want them to look sharp and pair them with denim, khakis, reds, seersucker, etc. then Alden unlined PTBs with the flex soles are great.

I have three suede models, all unlined and on the flex sole (tan PTB, navy chukka and snuff LHS). I like the ability to dress them up with khakis and even some wool while also being able to throw them on with shorts and denim. The chukkas are a great travel shoe as well. I'm considering the chukka in snuff
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As usual with J Crew, the problem with this model is that it is lined. Outside of a few exceptions (lomgwings, Indy boots), I think Alden suede is better unlined
 

i actually think i prefer lined suede. i tried the unlined suede chukkas and they felt a bit too light and slipper-like and non supportive of the toes. 


+1  I know many here prefer the unlined suede versions, but I have to agree with MH.  My old, aching, surgery-prone knees need as much support as they can get.  The lined versions just feel more comfortable and supportive.  (Man I sound old!)  Some have told me though, that after a season of wearing the unlined suede PTBs, that style of comfort will grow on me.  We shall see...

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+1  I know many here prefer the unlined suede versions, but I have to agree with MH.  My old, aching, surgery-prone knees need as much support as they can get.  The lined versions just feel more comfortable and supportive.  (Man I sound old!)  Some have told me though, that after a season of wearing the unlined suede PTBs, that style of comfort will grow on me.  We shall see...

The thin sole may be as much of an issue for you as the lining - not sure if crepe is your thing, but J Crew does sell a few suede models on crepe that would likely provide a lot of support.
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The thin sole may be as much of an issue for you as the lining - not sure if crepe is your thing, but J Crew does sell a few suede models on crepe that would likely provide a lot of support.

i hate crepe but do love crepes. 

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Originally Posted by BeSpiffington View Post

Very nice MrDV. They look great with your jeans. Selvedge perhaps?

Thank you Be. The jeans are by jcrew. I don't have selvedge denim. Do you have a pair you can recommend? Something you pair well w alden boots and lwb.
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