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Why do you continually come into an Alden thread and talk about how superior AE is? That is at least 3 or 4 posts in the last few days..
Let the non believers post with their little buckets of sand. Of course there're things we'd all change about Alden, but when they get it right and you find a pair that fits your foot it's freakin' awesome.


Believe me I've wanted to find AE shoes that suit my feet well.  (Aldens have killed my clothing budget.) I have not been able to find a single AE shoe that meets the comfort, fit, and construction that Alden has.  The 5 last (Fifth Avenue, Park Av, and strands) is pretty nice and I could go with it, but the shoe is not even close in comfort (IMHO).  I am a huge fan of the LWB, and the McNeil is quite possibly the most impossible shoe to size for me.  It is incredibly uncomfortable.  I thought the Player in walnut might be a nice short wing blucher alternative, but they're even more difficult to find a comfortable pair.

 

While AE may have great CS, better QC,  and they'll stand behind their shoes better, I have decided that buying an uncomfortable AE shoe is not worth it. I would rather spend a little more and know that I will be pleased.  I have 12 pairs of Aldens (11 of which were bought BNIB) and I do not have any that I would consider flawed to the extent of a seconds declaration, but I may be a little more forgiving than Mediahound (no offense intended my friend).

 

Sorry for my AE rant.  I know there are many here who enjoy both, just not me.

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post #48077 of 79477
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

Last I checked j Gilbert had rider boots in a whiskey cordovan may have been produced before he decided to stop doing business with horween.

Its possible they are an old model or that he restarted with cordovan. He seemed frustrated at the time. I have a black bal cordovan boot from them, I rarely wear it but I have found it to be really useful and good looking when I do
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So much for that whole not insulting people on the Internet thing...

 

Ryden, perhaps you should practice what you preach.

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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post

Absolutely! Wear in great health...
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

I was simply speculating that straight lines are less common in nature.
I am not even sure that is true. But regardless there could be man made reasons for the lines not caused by Horween or Alden. From my understanding the majority of these horses are work horses so maybe something inherent in that, or possibly at the point of slaughter. There are so many variables that I have a hard time standing by when someone makes accusations based on assumptions.
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Folks, 

 

I would like an Alden shell makeup like this:

 

 

from: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/03/avoidable-contact-when-it-comes-to-the-options-some-people-have-no-standards/

 

Anyone know of one?

 

The above pic is a past Allen Edmonds custom makeup. I actually inquired with AE about getting it and they said I could only order a custom makeup in calf, not shell. You can do that on their website. I'd much prefer this in an Alden LWB or SWB and in shell. 

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Originally Posted by Ahab View Post

I am not even sure that is true. But regardless there could be man made reasons for the lines not caused by Horween or Alden. From my understanding the majority of these horses are work horses so maybe something inherent in that, or possibly at the point of slaughter. There are so many variables that I have a hard time standing by when someone makes accusations based on assumptions.

I'm not sure either, which is why I said I was speculating.

I also said that it doesn't matter if an imperfection is man made or "natural" when evaluating a shoe, and the point of my posts were to point out that some "firsts" are very clearly too imperfect to be sold as firsts.
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post


Believe me I've wanted to find AE shoes that suit my feet well.  (Aldens have killed my clothing budget.) I have not been able to find a single AE shoe that meets the comfort, fit, and construction that Alden has.  The 5 last (Fifth Avenue, Park Av, and strands) is pretty nice and I could go with it, but the shoe is not even close in comfort (IMHO).  I am a huge fan of the LWB, and the McNeil is quite possibly the most impossible shoe to size for me.  It is incredibly uncomfortable.  I thought the Player in walnut might be a nice short wing blucher alternative, but they're even more difficult to find a comfortable pair.

While AE may have great CS, better QC,  and they'll stand behind their shoes better, I have decided that buying an uncomfortable AE shoe is not worth it. I would rather spend a little more and know that I will be pleased.  I have 12 pairs of Aldens (11 of which were bought BNIB) and I do not have any that I would consider flawed to the extent of a seconds declaration, but I may be a little more forgiving than Mediahound (no offense intended my friend).

Sorry for my AE rant.  I know there are many here who enjoy both, just not me.

I couldn't agree with you more... I've experienced the same issues... I have one pair of AE, patriot shell loafer, but not as comfortable as my LHS shells and the AE cordovan doesn't appear as "thick" as Alden's ... It's kind of flat... Just can't put my finger on it, but its just "different" and doesn't feel like the support bed you get in an Alden. Nonetheless I do admire AE and respect their commitment to QC and customer service... They really shine in those areas...
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Folks, 

I would like an Alden shell makeup like this:




from: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/03/avoidable-contact-when-it-comes-to-the-options-some-people-have-no-standards/

Anyone know of one?

The above pic is a past Allen Edmonds custom makeup. I actually inquired with AE about getting it and they said I could only order a custom makeup in calf, not shell. You can do that on their website. I'd much prefer this in an Alden LWB or SWB and in shell. 

That would be an awesome Alden makeup...
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Rider stopped making cordovan shoes (or that's what he told me last time I saw him and talked to him). Too much trouble getting shell from Horween.
That is sad to hear. Ron is a great, and knowledgeable guy and his shoes are high quality.

I purchased a pair of black shell chukkas from him a number of years ago. Fantastic quality. So many people were posting how great shell was in the rain and even snow that I wore them during in the rain and even a blizzard to see how well shell would hold up. The only problem was water spotting which showed up on the shell. After over two years the water spots seem to have gone away and the shoes are still going strong. Rider had some fantastic shell makeups that I just could not afford at the time.
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Originally Posted by CalceoAdamator View Post

the AE cordovan doesn't appear as "thick" as Alden's ... It's kind of flat... Just can't put my finger on it,

 

It's the same shell, they get it from Horween,  just like Alden does. The difference is Alden adds some special treatment and more dye on top of what they get from Horween, even for black shell. This is why it seems thicker and better quality than AE's shell.

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I absolutely agree... I have a pair of unlined suede PTBs on the barrie, and my normal barrie size was too snug for me; I went TTS.  It's a tad long but feels great.  (The price was right too!)

Where did you get 'em? 


Ebay, there was a very small tannish-colored stain by the right pinky toe of these tan suede PTBs.  After applying waterproofing treatment and brushing, I can not notice it anymore without a very close inspection.  They were never worn with this blemish and picked them up for $190.

post #48088 of 79477
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post


Ebay, there was a very small tannish-colored stain by the right pinky toe of these tan suede PTBs.  After applying waterproofing treatment and brushing, I can not notice it anymore without a very close inspection.  They were never worn with this blemish and picked them up for $190.

Congrats, that's a great price. 

post #48089 of 79477
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post


Ebay, there was a very small tannish-colored stain by the right pinky toe of these tan suede PTBs.  After applying waterproofing
treatment and brushing, I can not notice it anymore without a very close inspection.  They were never worn with this blemish and picked them up for $190.

At least I know who beat me congrats sir well played.
post #48090 of 79477
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

I'm not sure either, which is why I said I was speculating.

I also said that it doesn't matter if an imperfection is man made or "natural" when evaluating a shoe, and the point of my posts were to point out that some "firsts" are very clearly too imperfect to be sold as firsts.
Well you can sit back behind your screen and make broad assumptions about how other people are messing up without basing it on anything of substance, but the two pictures you posted probably contradict what you are trying to say so I will post your own pictures:

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It seems both of the catastrophic life events that you were forced to endure were in the inside of the shoes between the heel and the toe box. Really? REALLY? Who the eff sees that part of the shoe? Are you wearing these or taking them onto the subway and licking them?
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