Originally Posted by Papa Doble
I'm not sure either, which is why I said I was speculating.
I also said that it doesn't matter if an imperfection is man made or "natural" when evaluating a shoe, and the point of my posts were to point out that some "firsts" are very clearly too imperfect to be sold as firsts.
Well you can sit back behind your screen and make broad assumptions about how other people are messing up without basing it on anything of substance, but the two pictures you posted probably contradict what you are trying to say so I will post your own pictures:
It seems both of the catastrophic life events that you were forced to endure were in the inside of the shoes between the heel and the toe box. Really? REALLY? Who the eff sees that part of the shoe? Are you wearing these or taking them onto the subway and licking them?