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post #48001 of 93961
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

Here's one example of a "first" that I find hard to believe anyone would purchase as a first. I received the below ravello PTBs from Alden DC. This is a shitty iPhone 3 picture in low indoor light. Take my word that the line was significantly more pronounced in person (I didn't take the time to take a great picture because I wasn't exactly thrilled), and there was an identical line on the other side of the same shoe. I didn't bother putting them on my feet, immediately shipped them back, and was out $25 total in shipping. Either no one looked at this shoe at the factory or retailer, or they really do think someone will buy them.

LOL! Are the "flaws" you mention really Alden or is it a characteristic of shell?

I think we should have an Alden Support Group thread for when all of this self pitty starts to go around.
post #48002 of 93961
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

Really doesn't speak well for American manufacturing especially at this price point. I wonder if I just pay less attention when I am spending less.

Personally, doesn't matter how much time has passed I will still care about the imperfections.

Disagree completely. Allen Edmonds blows Alden away in customer service and standing behind their products. There's a reason Allen Edmonds is opening multiple stores in China and Alden only had retail partners. Honestly Alden needs a guy in there who knows what he's doing. These customer arrive, supply chain, and communications are the Rule at Alden, not the exception.
post #48003 of 93961
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post


Really doesn't speak well for American manufacturing especially at this price point. I wonder if I just pay less attention when I am spending less.

Personally, doesn't matter how much time has passed I will still care about the imperfections.

 

It might be do to the fact that Alden is a union factory. Some of the workers may not feel any incentive to do a good job since it's difficult to be fired and they will be paid the same either way. 

post #48004 of 93961
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

It might be do to the fact that Alden is a union factory. Some of the workers may not feel any incentive to do a good job since it's difficult to be fired and they will be paid the same either way. 

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post #48005 of 93961
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Originally Posted by JermynStreet View Post

Disagree completely. Allen Edmonds blows Alden away in customer service and standing behind their products. There's a reason Allen Edmonds is opening multiple stores in China and Alden only had retail partners. Honestly Alden needs a guy in there who knows what he's doing. These customer arrive, supply chain, and communications are the Rule at Alden, not the exception.

Why do you continually come into an Alden thread and talk about how superior AE is? That is at least 3 or 4 posts in the last few days..
post #48006 of 93961
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

Why do you continually come into an Alden thread and talk about how superior AE is? That is at least 3 or 4 posts in the last few days..
Maybe dude likes Alden but cannot afford them? Not a crilme to window shop.

Does AE do Whiskey or Ravello?
post #48007 of 93961
Do Alden for other brands have tighter quality control (big guys, like BB/JCrew), how about for smaller retailers, like Leather Soul/Leffot/Epaulet, etc.? At least I know it's relatively easy to get BB/Jcrew to exchange things.
post #48008 of 93961
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Originally Posted by clee1982 View Post

Do Alden for other brands have tighter quality control (big guys, like BB/JCrew), how about for smaller retailers, like Leather Soul/Leffot/Epaulet, etc.? At least I know it's relatively easy to get BB/Jcrew to exchange things.

That's an interesting question. I would assume not though otherwise we would be seeing a lot more irregulars and seconds popping up in my opinion.
post #48009 of 93961
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

Why do you continually come into an Alden thread and talk about how superior AE is? That is at least 3 or 4 posts in the last few days..
Let the non believers post with their little buckets of sand. Of course there're things we'd all change about Alden, but when they get it right and you find a pair that fits your foot it's freakin' awesome.
post #48010 of 93961
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I'm sorry for your loss papa, what's even worse is that they will be resold and someone else will likely share your experience at least until someone decides to keep them.

Yeah, I wonder how many iterations it will take until someone keeps them.

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Originally Posted by Ahab View Post

LOL! Are the "flaws" you mention really Alden or is it a characteristic of shell?

I think we should have an Alden Support Group thread for when all of this self pitty starts to go around.

To some extent it is the nature of shell and the shell color. For example, I decided to keep some #8 Tankers that have a coloring imperfection (see this post). On those, there aren't any straight lines that distinguish the lighter color from the darker color, so it's possible that it's a natural imperfection. There's also a small dark line that could be natural or due to mishandling.

Here's a separate pair of ravello PTBs from Alden NY that had a straight line like the other ravello PTBs I posted. To me, a straight line suggests a human-created defect. I imagine that either of these ravello examples might have been passable if the color was instead cigar, #8, or black.



I previously decided not to post these pictures to this thread, but figured it was appropriate to give an idea of the shoes I've seen pass as first quality. I'm sure all Alden shells have some degree of imperfection, and you kind of have to decide where you draw the line. Like BeSpiffington said, when they get it right, Aldens are awesome.
post #48011 of 93961
Based on only one experience I would say no. Just received the wrong shoes from J Crew today but had to stare at them and inspect them for about 1/2 hr anyway. The left shoe seemed fine while the right shoe had a total of 9 holes not punched.
post #48012 of 93961
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Originally Posted by Steel28 View Post


I can't get enough from Tremont last. I have Leffot's Atoms and this last wears extremely well.

Good looking Whiskey SW.

How does the Tremont last fit compare to other Alden lasts?  I'm familiar with the Hampton (8D or 8.5C), Barrie (8C) and Trubalance (8C).  Thanks.

post #48013 of 93961
Totally agree on man made versus natural variation. Here is a mark on Ravello Chukkas that I opted to keep as it truly seemed like this was natural occurring in the leather
post #48014 of 93961
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

My tremont shoes are TTS (10E). Same with my grant shoes. I've tried Tremont in my Barrie size (9.5E) and have not been successful. I think a good rule is if you have wide feet, go TTS in in Tremont/Grant, if you don't have wide feet, you can try to go down half a size.

Since the tremont is sleeker/more narrow, that certainly makes a lot of sense.

post #48015 of 93961
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

To some extent it is the nature of shell and the shell color. For example, I decided to keep some #8 Tankers that have a coloring imperfection (see this post). On those, there aren't any straight lines that distinguish the lighter color from the darker color, so it's possible that it's a natural imperfection. There's also a small dark line that could be natural or due to mishandling.
I had a straight discoloration on the to box of my whiskey PTB's. I really am not sure how you could tell if it is from the source shell, Horween or Alden. I am not even sure if I can notice the difference anymore in full daylight?
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

Here's a separate pair of ravello PTBs from Alden NY that had a straight line like the other ravello PTBs I posted. To me, a straight line suggests a human-created defect. I imagine that either of these ravello examples might have been passable if the color was instead cigar, #8, or black.
To you it may suggest a human created defect but the fact is you do not know if it is either human created or a defect. teacha.gif
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post



I previously decided not to post these pictures to this thread, but figured it was appropriate to give an idea of the shoes I've seen pass as first quality. I'm sure all Alden shells have some degree of imperfection, and you kind of have to decide where you draw the line. Like BeSpiffington said, when they get it right, Aldens are awesome.
You are a special flower. You should not settle for imperfection. You should buy whiskey and ravello from some other maker.
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