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Originally Posted by zazaza View Post

Wilderness Workshop is a completely different animal than the Tannery upstairs. I can't comment on who owns it, but the dude who runs it (jason) is a class act and everyone who works there has been nothing but friendly and helpful.

Contrast that with upstairs where it's high pressure sales by dudes who really aren't well informed on what they're selling.
I had one guy tell me he owns every Alden model that the store carries, but was flummoxed when I asked him which Alden last fit his foot the best.
Another time a different du asked if my whiskey bluchers were made by Stacy Adams.

Wilderness Workshop, thanks for that. The guys down there are all very helpful and it's a fun place to look around.

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I think if the guys at the Tannery walked over to Charles St. to team up with the idiots at NRO, we'd reach a critical mass of stupidity. Earth might just cease to exist.

Maybe it depends on which sleezoid salesperson you talk to, but the last time I popped into the Tannery I got a wild hair and asked if they'd give me a discount if I purchased 3 pairs of Aldens. The guy said he wished he could help, but they stopped doing that. This was about a year and a half ago. Realistically, they have to do great in both their locations given all the tourist traffic, so why haggle with goons like me.

I feel dirty after being approached by their salesmen. I always got the feeling that they simply order Alden from shoemart or something. They've never had any sizes.

The Tannery was where I came across Alden for the first time ca. 1995. I was a year out of college and had just moved to Boston. It was the lower Boylston location and I asked about a pair of PTB's (in #8 shell, though I didn't know what that meant at the time). the SA told me they were orthopedic shoes (and didn't have my size). I ended up buying a pair of burgundy Sebago bluchers.

Fast forward almost 20 yrs and they are still a bunch of clowns...with a bigger store.

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Can I ask a question? So I really have never understood the attraction to split toes or suede. Can someone please give me a well thought out answer to why you find either of these styles attractive?

I think one reason people like suede is that it adds texture, much like a knit or grenadine tie.

The split toe style is an acquired taste and perhaps the most polarizing style in this thread. Many here don't like it at all, and others like it only on certain lasts. It adds some visual interest beyond a plain toe without being a brogue, and IMO is one of the best styles if you come to appreciate it, especially in boot form on the Barrie or Plaza last. As a shoe or boot on the Aberdeen last, it doesn't do it for me -- though I must admit that Don L's above are looking quite good.
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What are the benefits of an unlined PTB vs. lined?

They are just softer and lower profile. Very comfortable.
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What are the benefits of an unlined PTB vs. lined?

BTW, I just ordered the 9901 (black shell, standard lined) and think it's pure class:


Good lord those are pretty
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Originally Posted by Beatlegeuse View Post

^ agree completely, Alden does suede very well. Doesn't quite carry the same cachet as shell, but they are just as useful in most wardrobes IMO.

True Statement.
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I agree, split toe is my favorite shoe. I have 4 Alden models and one EG Dover in Edwardian, I'd buy a split toe in every shell color if I could find my size.

Each has their own taste, I actually don't really care for PTB. Everytime I try a pair on I look in the mirror and think it looks like I have clown shoes on and always pass.

If you haven't already, take a look at the plaza last. It changes the look immensely IMO.
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Originally Posted by jkater1 View Post

I agree, split toe is my favorite shoe. I have 4 Alden models and one EG Dover in Edwardian, I'd buy a split toe in every shell color if I could find my size.

Each has their own taste, I actually don't really care for PTB. Everytime I try a pair on I look in the mirror and think it looks like I have clown shoes on and always pass.

If you haven't already, take a look at the plaza last. It changes the look immensely IMO.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

If you haven't already, take a look at the plaza last. It changes the look immensely IMO.

Where does one find a PTB on the Plaza?
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Originally Posted by sazon View Post

^mediahound : Thank you.

Yes, Ravello. Special make-up for the J. Crew Ludlow Shop.

I know many here don't dig the brass eyelets, but I love them as well.
I am on an exposed eyelets kick. I wish more of my shoes had exposed eyelets. Great shoe. Wear in good health.
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My first pair of Aldens were a plaza ptb in tan calf I purchased from mgoldberg in new orleans.
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

What are the benefits of an unlined PTB vs. lined?

BTW, I just ordered the 9901 (black shell, standard lined) and think it's pure class:



I wouldn't say there are benefits of one over the other, but they are certainly different.

The unlined one will feel roomier, you get lining but only towards the back/heel area - the rest of the shoe, well - is unlined. It's not going to feel a whole lot roomier, but it'll feel as if you're wearing a thinner sock, so the shoe is looser. It'll be a lot more flexible too. Tends to work well on suede shoes, IMO.

Unlined shell is pretty nice too, but I've only got to experience unlined shell in the form of a tongue on a boot.

David
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Unlined Alden suede is slipper-like in its comfort.

 

I have both an unlined suede chukka and a lined suede chukka. At arms (or foot's) length, one would be hard pressed to identify which is which. But the unlined is so light and forgiving, I just love them. It's the perfect warm weather travel shoe.

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Originally Posted by JermynStreet View Post

Can I ask a question? So I really have never understood the attraction to split toes or suede. Can someone please give me a well thought out answer to why you find either of these styles attractive?
I cannot speak for the split toe. I really do not have a strong feeling to own any. Same with the chukka. I purchased a pair after it seemed everyone here raved about them but I just do not think they fit my style.

As for suede, I love it. I had doubts because I was ignorant and though high (to me) end suede would be fragile and stain, blah. blah blah.

Well I picked up to pairs of white suede Alden's in one week. First I ordered some white suede bucks off the seconds list. A couple of days later I walked into Alden DC and they had a white suede saddle shoe one sale for a price I could not pass up so I grabbed those.

I had doubts about white bucks as I have NEVER worn them before. But since I had two pairs of white I just forgot about getting them dirty, stained or scuffed. Now I cannot wait to break them out (soon!). I wear them all summer, with and without socks. As a matter of fact I wore them at a beach wedding and it was perfect.

Later that year I picked up a pair of snuff suede plain toe boots with crepe soles off of the seconds list. Again I had some fears about getting them stained or messing them up. Now I love them and appreciate them for the ability to wear them in rain and even mud. I still do not like wearing shell in rain because of a bad experience with water spots, but suede is like this magic leather that I have grown to love. I think it is right behind chromexcel with cordovan for me.

Here is a pic of the white suede saddle shoes:





And here are the boots in Mexico:





I also have to add that I was anti crepe for a while but have also grown to love crepe through actual use.
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Suede shoes present a number of advantages
1) Easy to break in / flexible
2) The texture of the suede adds character
3) The colors of the suede (particularly tan and navy) are interesting and contrast well with a lot of clothing items
4) Very comfortable in the spring and summer
5) They just look cool. Suede shoes are attention grabbers in a good way
6) Alden in particular does suede very well. Unlined suede on a flex welt just feels different than most other shoes on the market, even high end suede.
As I have said a few times, if I had to have only 5 Aldens, at least one would be suede.

The split toe pattern is found in many shoes... I like it a lot on my barrie tankers, but my cigar NST bluchers on Aberdeen literally looked too much line an "almond" for me. A few people have mentioned Edward Green Dovers, which look great to me (I don't own any). I've seen a bunch of attractive NST shoe models at Leffot, but they typically aren't from Alden.
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