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post #47131 of 91527
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

Agreed. Shape is all "off."

Can't believe I'm dissing the plaza, but yes.

100% disagree. I like the shape.

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post #47132 of 91527
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Originally Posted by phorm View Post

Placed the order for these from Frans Boone on Tuesday and received them two days later. No customs charges--the box was marked as U.S. goods. No complaints here, only praise.

Sorry about the indoor lighting, but I'm not usually home when the sun is out. smile.gif


Nice boots, and great service.
post #47133 of 91527
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

100% disagree. I like the shape.

Shape for calling it an Indy only.

Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful, worthy-of-envy boot.
post #47134 of 91527
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post

 

 

If you really want to delve further, Legalism, Taoism, Buddhism, Civil Service Examination System, paper money, the check/certificates of deposit, standardized system of measurements, the flame thrower, the compass, iron technology, the ship's rudder, stirrups, hot air balloons, decimal numbers. etc...  I could go on with this, all have come from China.

 

Don't those all predate the existence of the US?

post #47135 of 91527

Is the Trubalance in "D" width a naturally wide width?

 


I have 12.5 length, pronated feet and wear a 13E in Allen Edmonds Strands/Park Ave last. Would a 12D Trubalance fit me?
 

post #47136 of 91527
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

Is the Trubalance in "D" width a naturally wide width?



I have 12.5 length, pronated feet and wear a 13E in Allen Edmonds Strands/Park Ave last. Would a 12D Trubalance fit me?

 

I'm going to guess a 13D would suit you. The AE Strand is on the 5-65 last which I need a 7E on. i've tried a 7.5D on the trubalance before, fit comfortably width wise but just a little long.
post #47137 of 91527
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Originally Posted by phorm View Post

Placed the order for these from Frans Boone on Tuesday and received them two days later. No customs charges--the box was marked as U.S. goods. No complaints here, only praise.

Sorry about the indoor lighting, but I'm not usually home when the sun is out. smile.gif


Gorgeous. Enjoy them
post #47138 of 91527
The plaza lasted Indy makes the boot very sleek, which I guess some people see as the opposite of the Indy aesthetic. To me they are kind of rugged but handsome boots to be worn with denim or chinos (I won't call them "work boots" because dudes aren't constructing buildings or in a factory in their $750 cordovan Indy boots). IMO the ravello Indy just looks like a sleek NST boot without the split toe stitch (which is a great boot, just kind of odd for an Indy).. Indy boots (whatever the leather) look more appealing to me in the Trubalance last (I even think the Barrie versions look a bit too narrow sometimes). The best Indy I have seen is the cigar version on commando soles, followed by the 404/403/natty versions and then the whiskey versions. I don't recall ever seeing a ravello Indy on Trublanace (same thing with a whiskey wingtip boot, I don't think it has ever been made).

The tanker boot is a happy medium (rugged but somewhat sleeker than an Indy due to the Barrie last and split toe stitching)
post #47139 of 91527

HHe anybody noticed that you can no longer order cordovan shell from THE SHOE MART wesite?

post #47140 of 91527
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Originally Posted by Gcbrown3 View Post

HHe anybody noticed that you can no longer order cordovan shell from THE SHOE MART wesite?

I still see cordovan models available and addable to a shopping cart
post #47141 of 91527
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Originally Posted by Thor View Post


For your erudition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

 

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Originally Posted by jimney View Post

Don't those all predate the existence of the US?

 

I'm not trying to get involved in stirring up a hornet's nest nest.gif Nor am I trying to offend anyone who may be Chinese or be of Chinese heritage around here.  I work with Chinese people in my field, and they are great, genuine, hard working folk.  Strictly from an observation standpoint, I think the original poster's intent was to say that right now the Chinese seem to be extremely heavy on the consumption side of things rather than on the contributing side of things.  In all honesty, almost the entire list of inventions from that Wikipedia list date back to the late middle ages or earlier.  The list of modern inventions is only a handful and they are mostly science lab stuff that may mean something to you if you work in the appropriate field or have had a specific reason for it to apply to you.  Obviously Chinese culture is quite ancient and has contributed to the world's knowledge in unimaginable ways, but in our lifetimes (no matter how old you are), we have really only seen a black hole effect going on. 

post #47142 of 91527
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post

 

 

If you really want to delve further, Legalism, Taoism, Buddhism, Civil Service Examination System, paper money, the check/certificates of deposit, standardized system of measurements, the flame thrower, the compass, iron technology, the ship's rudder, stirrups, hot air balloons, decimal numbers. etc...  I could go on with this, all have come from China.

 

Don't those all predate the existence of the US?


Not sure what difference that makes.  If you look at the original post, Alpina said, "other than gunpowder and Confucianism," which also predates the US, China hasn't had an original idea and therefore couldn't surpass the US or lead...  I assumed this meant he was evaluating all of China's history seeing as how he was going back more than 2,000 years to dig up what he thought was China's only original ideas.

 

My point was that great civilizations that have led the world both created ideas and borrowed from others.  In the history of mankind, China has certainly proven itself to be among the most innovative and creative civilizations. There is a reason why it is the longest-lasting, continuous civilization in history, and second isn't even close.  Sorry once again for interrupting the thread, but as a teacher of history I could not let that bit of ignorance go unchecked. (Sorry Alpina, I mean no disrespect or ill will)   And I think I did get what you were intimating, as MoneyWellSpent just illuminated ^^^. but it rubbed me the wrong way as it may have with those of Chinese ancestry.

 

Cheers and time to move on and post some pics...  nod[1].gif


Edited by ReppTiePrepster - 3/29/13 at 5:45am
post #47143 of 91527
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Originally Posted by Gcbrown3 View Post

HHe anybody noticed that you can no longer order cordovan shell from THE SHOE MART wesite?


Could it be that all of the shell models you are looking for in your size are all out of stock?  The shell offerings are still posted on their website.

post #47144 of 91527
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If memory serves, these were whiskey - they're using this pic to show what they'll almost look like.
post #47145 of 91527
Woke up to an email from Oki, plaza captoe #8s have been confirmed and are four months out . Today shall be a good day. As to the Indy discussion, I agree a plaza doesn't really look like a true Indy. The plaza is my favorite of all the Alden lasts but the Indy was meant to be an unapologetic, beefy , hulk.
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