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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

I believe I've found a method for diagnosing acute onset Alden addiction disorder. This weekend I purchased several new shoe trees for my recent purchases, my girlfriend advised me that I spend more money on shoe trees than she does on shoes. When one spends more money on trees than the average american spends on shoes, you have Alden addiction disorder.

This is awesome! SO TRUE

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These look superb!

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Sometimes when I have to work from home and my GF makes me do laundry I put colored laces in my Alden's and take bad iPhone pics of them. Ravello LWB and marcoliani enhanced w/ Snapseed

Looking good for a snowy Monday! Maybe they will help attract Spring.

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post #46892 of 86759
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Nice looking J Crew Saddles. It got me thinking of a weird question: why is only calf used for suede? What would shell/ostrich/other skin look like for suede? Anyone have any ideas on this?

I'm not a leather expert by any means, but suede is the "flesh side" (inward facing side of the hide) that is brushed to have that suede nap.  Maybe cow hide is the only or best material for this process?  or maybe other hides produce the same result, but are not as cheap or widely available as cow hides, due to the beef industry.

 

Just speculating.

 

Edit:  I think they also can use goat skin for suede, if I am not mistaken.


Actually, most suede PTB's used to be made from deer hide, hence the name "Suede Bucks."

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Actually, most suede PTB's used to be made from deer hide, hence the name "Suede Bucks."
Actually, I did not know that. I learnded something today!
post #46894 of 86759
with spring about to emerge, i really kind of want suede full strap loafers.

am i crazy, or would these be a cool spring shoe?

http://www.pelleline.com/store/product-info.php?alden_shoes_6839_full_strap_suede-pid966.html
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Decided to keep the Roys over Indys. Good advice ppl nod[1].gif
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Originally Posted by JermynStreet View Post

FYI- DWF on Suede from the John Lobb appreciation thread. This guy is a freakin genius/oracle.

Originally Posted by DWFII

I doubt that there are many leathers better suited for suede than calf. Maybe horse but other than that, none that I know of. The fibers in a young animal, such as a calf, are closer together and shorter than on an older animal. This applies across the board, whether it be calf or cow, kid or goat, alligator or dinosaur.

IMO, cow is too old and too coarse to make a good suede.

Kid and goat is too delicate although sueded womens shoes are made of kid) .

No other leathers (except maybe horse as prev. mentioned) are fine enough to be a suitable suede.

But the main issue...and I wonder if this is just a matter of terminology...is that usually, at least lately, when a suede is marketed as "calf suede" it is actually a full grain calf skin that has been finished for use with the flesh side out, but with the grain side still intact. That last bit is the important part.

Most "suedes" in commercial use...esp. on shoes in the sub $1000.00 range...are actually "splits" from cow hides. The flesh is coarser, but more importantly, the grain side is missing. So all the strength in the hide is also missing.

It is my understanding that sometimes a tanner/currier can get two splits and a top grain off of one hide. The top grain is relatively premium...the splits are borderline offal.

I've avoided making suede shoes for many years because here in the US real calf suede (with the grain intact) is not readily available, only splits. Although I have turned high end French calf flesh side out. And if I select and cut the hide carefully, it makes a very successful suede.

Happily, I recently found a source in England for bona fide grain suede.

 

DWFII is a lot of fun to engage in conversation with.  I certainly haven't come across anyone with more knowledge than him on shoes, their components, and their history.  He founded the Crispin Colloquy, which is a forum similar to SF but it is only for bespoke shoe makers.  It has lots of great reading. 

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I now have the sickness.  Thanks everyone!

 

 

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I now have the sickness.  Thanks everyone!

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Potatoe po-tat-oe, looks the cure from where I'm standing
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Seems like you are taking extraordinary precautions there, Bakes, but I suppose you are better safe than sorry considering. Glad you are taking an evidence-based approach in light of the literature.

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post #46900 of 86759
Not shoes, but stopped at a local Alden dealer and pick up one of these.

AppleMark
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Not shoes, but stopped at a local Alden dealer and pick up one of these.

AppleMark
Very cool. Your wallet might as well have Alden on it just to remind you where all your money is going. :-)
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Looks like they completely sold out or pulled them off the site to fix the price.  Sadly, I am expecting an order cancellation soon.   If JCREW doesn't cancel our orders, it will be the fastest selling and least profitable Alden make-up JCREW has ever offered.

 

 

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man you guys wiped out the stock for the smaller sizes of that black cap toe!
post #46903 of 86759
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Originally Posted by matt92037 View Post

Looks like they completely sold out or pulled them off the site to fix the price.  Sadly, I am expecting an order cancellation soon.   If JCREW doesn't cancel our orders, it will be the fastest selling and least profitable Alden make-up JCREW has ever offered.


Well - a couple years ago I snagged a ton of stuff with a 25 or 30% off coupon that worked... haha
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i hate that the winn perry website still exists out there teasing me with excellent makeups
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Can anyone who owns a pair of dark brown suede comment on whether or not they lighten with age like snuff tends to do?

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