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it's shoes.

 

it goes on your feet.

 

lamb suede wouldn't last very long.

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it's shoes.

 

it goes on your feet.

 

lamb suede wouldn't last very long.

Maybe DWF would know about this? I'll message him and ask him.

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I bought both 8.5 and 8. Whichever one does not fit me as well, will go back or for sale. 

If you go with the 8.5, I'll take the 8. nod[1].gif
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you're welcome. but beware, my wife always thought i had several brown wingtip shoes, she's now calling them the orange pair, the purple pair...
thank you sir
thank you uncle roguls
i wore the whiskeys with the pictured blue laces last night, i really liked the look.
i will be experimenting with the dark purple this week, i'll post pics if they make it out of the house.
my wife embarrassed me once over my red shoe laces so even though she now likes them i refuse to wear them out of defiance
but i like them too. aint disfunctional relationships great!
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So AOC's is essentially doing Aldens job by protecting the consumer. It really is disheartening that Alden's attitude seems to be "hey, they will buy it anyway so what does it matter". I find it noble that AOC would pay full price for the shoes, mark them down and eat the difference in an effort to please the customer. It certainly says a lot for them.

I agree it's kind of sad, but as I understand it you are correct........AOC performs his own QC. That being said his "irregulars" are priced lower that full price but not to the extent that TSM marks them down. I'd say he is still making a decent profit with his irregulars.

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I agree it's kind of sad, but as I understand it you are correct........AOC performs his own QC. That being said his "irregulars" are priced lower that full price but not to the extent that TSM marks them down. I'd say he is still making a decent profit with his irregulars.
Adam's irregulars are also of better quality than the TSM's. On the pair of suede boots I posted there is some funky stitching on the inside outer part near the arch. Regardless those boots have been getting a lot of wear and have given me a new respect for the crepe soles.

I am looking to purchase another pair of Aldens with crepe soles because of how tough these have turned out to be. And believe me, I was a crepe hater for a while.
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I agree it's kind of sad, but as I understand it you are correct........AOC performs his own QC. That being said his "irregulars" are priced lower that full price but not to the extent that TSM marks them down. I'd say he is still making a decent profit with his irregulars.

Even with that being the case,how many retailers are willing to lose money for sake of the customer. I can tell you the pair I inquired about were being offered at 100$ below retail. Although he is still making a profit, he is cutting into his margins pretty heavily. It's obvious that his reputation is very important to him as is customer satisfaction.
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There is also the generally higher quality reverse full grain horse/bison/etc., but you won't see that outside of artisanal brands - see the baller boot thread.

Lamb suede is gonna have a bad time on your feet.
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Sometimes when I have to work from home and my GF makes me do laundry I put colored laces in my Alden's and take bad iPhone pics of them. Ravello LWB and marcoliani enhanced w/ Snapseed
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monday blues....

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Having worked for an Alden retailer, I've heard the following:

1. If you get in touch with an Alden Account Exec/SR - you can get 2 pairs of shoes from them, 25% under cost. (I never got to utilize this)
2. They buy at around if not just under 50% of the MSRP - so the LWBs really cost the store, say about $330.
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FYI- DWF on Suede from the John Lobb appreciation thread. This guy is a freakin genius/oracle.

Originally Posted by DWFII

I doubt that there are many leathers better suited for suede than calf. Maybe horse but other than that, none that I know of. The fibers in a young animal, such as a calf, are closer together and shorter than on an older animal. This applies across the board, whether it be calf or cow, kid or goat, alligator or dinosaur.

IMO, cow is too old and too coarse to make a good suede.

Kid and goat is too delicate although sueded womens shoes are made of kid) .

No other leathers (except maybe horse as prev. mentioned) are fine enough to be a suitable suede.

But the main issue...and I wonder if this is just a matter of terminology...is that usually, at least lately, when a suede is marketed as "calf suede" it is actually a full grain calf skin that has been finished for use with the flesh side out, but with the grain side still intact. That last bit is the important part.

Most "suedes" in commercial use...esp. on shoes in the sub $1000.00 range...are actually "splits" from cow hides. The flesh is coarser, but more importantly, the grain side is missing. So all the strength in the hide is also missing.

It is my understanding that sometimes a tanner/currier can get two splits and a top grain off of one hide. The top grain is relatively premium...the splits are borderline offal.

I've avoided making suede shoes for many years because here in the US real calf suede (with the grain intact) is not readily available, only splits. Although I have turned high end French calf flesh side out. And if I select and cut the hide carefully, it makes a very successful suede.

Happily, I recently found a source in England for bona fide grain suede.
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Thought i'd give the Alden lovers of this thread heads up, I just posted Cigar Pitt boots 10D in the streetwear classified.
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Don L, those are beautiful boots! Nice shine too.

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