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I agree it's kind of sad, but as I understand it you are correct........AOC performs his own QC. That being said his "irregulars" are priced lower that full price but not to the extent that TSM marks them down. I'd say he is still making a decent profit with his irregulars.
Adam's irregulars are also of better quality than the TSM's. On the pair of suede boots I posted there is some funky stitching on the inside outer part near the arch. Regardless those boots have been getting a lot of wear and have given me a new respect for the crepe soles.

I am looking to purchase another pair of Aldens with crepe soles because of how tough these have turned out to be. And believe me, I was a crepe hater for a while.
post #46847 of 93961
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Originally Posted by shaunw View Post

I agree it's kind of sad, but as I understand it you are correct........AOC performs his own QC. That being said his "irregulars" are priced lower that full price but not to the extent that TSM marks them down. I'd say he is still making a decent profit with his irregulars.

Even with that being the case,how many retailers are willing to lose money for sake of the customer. I can tell you the pair I inquired about were being offered at 100$ below retail. Although he is still making a profit, he is cutting into his margins pretty heavily. It's obvious that his reputation is very important to him as is customer satisfaction.
post #46848 of 93961
There is also the generally higher quality reverse full grain horse/bison/etc., but you won't see that outside of artisanal brands - see the baller boot thread.

Lamb suede is gonna have a bad time on your feet.
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Sometimes when I have to work from home and my GF makes me do laundry I put colored laces in my Alden's and take bad iPhone pics of them. Ravello LWB and marcoliani enhanced w/ Snapseed
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monday blues....

post #46851 of 93961
Having worked for an Alden retailer, I've heard the following:

1. If you get in touch with an Alden Account Exec/SR - you can get 2 pairs of shoes from them, 25% under cost. (I never got to utilize this)
2. They buy at around if not just under 50% of the MSRP - so the LWBs really cost the store, say about $330.
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FYI- DWF on Suede from the John Lobb appreciation thread. This guy is a freakin genius/oracle.

Originally Posted by DWFII

I doubt that there are many leathers better suited for suede than calf. Maybe horse but other than that, none that I know of. The fibers in a young animal, such as a calf, are closer together and shorter than on an older animal. This applies across the board, whether it be calf or cow, kid or goat, alligator or dinosaur.

IMO, cow is too old and too coarse to make a good suede.

Kid and goat is too delicate although sueded womens shoes are made of kid) .

No other leathers (except maybe horse as prev. mentioned) are fine enough to be a suitable suede.

But the main issue...and I wonder if this is just a matter of terminology...is that usually, at least lately, when a suede is marketed as "calf suede" it is actually a full grain calf skin that has been finished for use with the flesh side out, but with the grain side still intact. That last bit is the important part.

Most "suedes" in commercial use...esp. on shoes in the sub $1000.00 range...are actually "splits" from cow hides. The flesh is coarser, but more importantly, the grain side is missing. So all the strength in the hide is also missing.

It is my understanding that sometimes a tanner/currier can get two splits and a top grain off of one hide. The top grain is relatively premium...the splits are borderline offal.

I've avoided making suede shoes for many years because here in the US real calf suede (with the grain intact) is not readily available, only splits. Although I have turned high end French calf flesh side out. And if I select and cut the hide carefully, it makes a very successful suede.

Happily, I recently found a source in England for bona fide grain suede.
post #46853 of 93961
Thought i'd give the Alden lovers of this thread heads up, I just posted Cigar Pitt boots 10D in the streetwear classified.
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Don L, those are beautiful boots! Nice shine too.

+1 

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I believe I've found a method for diagnosing acute onset Alden addiction disorder. This weekend I purchased several new shoe trees for my recent purchases, my girlfriend advised me that I spend more money on shoe trees than she does on shoes. When one spends more money on trees than the average american spends on shoes, you have Alden addiction disorder.

This is awesome! SO TRUE

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These look superb!

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Sometimes when I have to work from home and my GF makes me do laundry I put colored laces in my Alden's and take bad iPhone pics of them. Ravello LWB and marcoliani enhanced w/ Snapseed

Looking good for a snowy Monday! Maybe they will help attract Spring.
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Nice looking J Crew Saddles. It got me thinking of a weird question: why is only calf used for suede? What would shell/ostrich/other skin look like for suede? Anyone have any ideas on this?

I'm not a leather expert by any means, but suede is the "flesh side" (inward facing side of the hide) that is brushed to have that suede nap.  Maybe cow hide is the only or best material for this process?  or maybe other hides produce the same result, but are not as cheap or widely available as cow hides, due to the beef industry.

 

Just speculating.

 

Edit:  I think they also can use goat skin for suede, if I am not mistaken.


Actually, most suede PTB's used to be made from deer hide, hence the name "Suede Bucks."

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Actually, most suede PTB's used to be made from deer hide, hence the name "Suede Bucks."
Actually, I did not know that. I learnded something today!
post #46859 of 93961
with spring about to emerge, i really kind of want suede full strap loafers.

am i crazy, or would these be a cool spring shoe?

http://www.pelleline.com/store/product-info.php?alden_shoes_6839_full_strap_suede-pid966.html
post #46860 of 93961
Decided to keep the Roys over Indys. Good advice ppl nod[1].gif
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