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She's too smart for me.

 

The Ravello's gotta go for an actual price.

 

Anybody have a new 8.5. Whiskey LWB Barrie w/ leather soul?

 

Like somebody who posted yesterday, I've found that all of my Barrie Boots fit me perfectly in a 9, but my LWB in Barrie fit much better in an 8.5.. I've made some adjustments to many, but am just going straight 8.5 in Barrie going forward.

 

Alden, as a company, is just getting arrogant and dictatorial. Cordovan shortage has somehow made them able to adjust the threshold on what becomes a second as opposed to a first quality shoe.

 

While I'm venting, I ordered a Whiskey LWB in 9D from Alden SF. They would have completed the so called LWB rainbow. Anyway, I took them out of the box and they had the deepest scratch in the right vamp and I could tell that I was the first person who had received this pair and I pride myself iin my ability to take out even deep scratched this wasn't going anywhere.

 

I called Alden Massachussetts and spoke to them and they said that they'd get a new pair out to the San Fran store. A promise which seemed illusory. The Alden (MA) people, or probably better to say person, said that it must have slipped by their QC. Anyway, I call Alden San Fran to tell them this and they tell me, to make it simple, "NO." They then told me that those shoes are going back into inventory and will be sold to another consumer. This, after they admitted to having dried to take the scratch out with no luck. The shoes with tax were around $795. I called them and asked them if they could call me if an 8.5 got returned in light of this. I had been on the wait list for the scratched shoe, blah, blah, yadda, yadda. They told me that I would get the first 8.5 returned.

 

So yesterday, I look on the website and an 8.5 has been returned. I call the store to inquire only to be told, we're so sorry, but we sold it. I didn't give them a hard time, because it would have served no purpose. The damage was done.

 

anyway, the same week I received a #8 Brixton Boot from Epaulet with one of those upper bubbles where the lining isn't flush to the shell on the upper and so they get a bubble, which in time becomes either awful creasing or torn seams.

 

i hate to start too many sentences with "anyway", 

 

Anyway, Alden's quality, as a collector with 21 pairs of shell, has gone to shit. What used to be seconds get sent to retailers and even resold by Aldem themselves after a clear defect is pointed out. Epaulet excused it as Alden being Alden and Alden SF said, "those shells are so rare that people will still pay full retail for them, so they're going back on the shelves."

 

It appears that these days, defects need to be real botched shoes, shells are much darker with imperfections now appearing in black and # 8. It's disheartening. I find that I've probably paid an extra $500 this year just on returned shipping. 

 

At the same time, the Wolverine 744 that I alerted the thread to because they were on sale on ebay in all sizes for $532 from $750 arrived and they were so beautiful and well crafted. Nowadays, most Alden boots have that place with the tongue connects to the boot and it looks like it's either unfinished or poorly made ( you can see it on all the J. Crew #8 PCT Boot as the as the Black PCT shell boot from the Molded Shoe in NYC).

 

I thought that I'd vent. On a different note, I do have a Ravello Chukka an the J. Crew Ravello LWB in 9D and I got caught so, unless these super bids materialize, they'll be a couple great shoes in the market place.

 

if you have any 8.5 Barrie LWB in Whiskey or Ravello or at boots in 9D, I'd be open for a trade if they're new like mine. Mine haven't even been tried on as you guys pointed out.

 

we might have to take action. Maybe a salt march to the Alden factory:)

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post #45557 of 87674

Wow that was long.....Sorry!

post #45558 of 87674
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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post

Follow up on PSA: spoke to Michael, who informed me there are also white bucks with red sole also 40%off. Model 96814. $475 before disc. Is that a real Alden? I feel like I never see white ones other than the JCrew makeup.

This is actually tempting with spring around the corner (actually feels like summer is already here in FL today). Which last are these on?
post #45559 of 87674
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

If they are just a little tight, I would stick with them.  If they are a lot tight, abort.  My pairs have been a little snug at first.  Sometimes a stitch or two where the strap perpendiculates the side of the shoe breaks, and it solves the problem.  Also, your foot will sink a little in to the cork bed, and that will help.
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Thanks for the advice, I'll continue wearing them on carpet. I have a narrower heel and it is very loose in the larger lasts if I size down to take care of the slight difference.
post #45560 of 87674
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gcbrown3 View Post

She's too smart for me.

 

The Ravello's gotta go for an actual price.

 

Anybody have a new 8.5. Whiskey LWB Barrie w/ leather soul?

 

Like somebody who posted yesterday, I've found that all of my Barrie Boots fit me perfectly in a 9, but my LWB in Barrie fit much better in an 8.5.. I've made some adjustments to many, but am just going straight 8.5 in Barrie going forward.

 

Alden, as a company, is just getting arrogant and dictatorial. Cordovan shortage has somehow made them able to adjust the threshold on what becomes a second as opposed to a first quality shoe.

 

While I'm venting, I ordered a Whiskey LWB in 9D from Alden SF. They would have completed the so called LWB rainbow. Anyway, I took them out of the box and they had the deepest scratch in the right vamp and I could tell that I was the first person who had received this pair and I pride myself iin my ability to take out even deep scratched this wasn't going anywhere.

 

I called Alden Massachussetts and spoke to them and they said that they'd get a new pair out to the San Fran store. A promise which seemed illusory. The Alden (MA) people, or probably better to say person, said that it must have slipped by their QC. Anyway, I call Alden San Fran to tell them this and they tell me, to make it simple, "NO." They then told me that those shoes are going back into inventory and will be sold to another consumer. This, after they admitted to having dried to take the scratch out with no luck. The shoes with tax were around $795. I called them and asked them if they could call me if an 8.5 got returned in light of this. I had been on the wait list for the scratched shoe, blah, blah, yadda, yadda. They told me that I would get the first 8.5 returned.

 

So yesterday, I look on the website and an 8.5 has been returned. I call the store to inquire only to be told, we're so sorry, but we sold it. I didn't give them a hard time, because it would have served no purpose. The damage was done.

 

anyway, the same week I received a #8 Brixton Boot from Epaulet with one of those upper bubbles where the lining isn't flush to the shell on the upper and so they get a bubble, which in time becomes either awful creasing or torn seams.

 

i hate to start too many sentences with "anyway", 

 

Anyway, Alden's quality, as a collector with 21 pairs of shell, has gone to shit. What used to be seconds get sent to retailers and even resold by Aldem themselves after a clear defect is pointed out. Epaulet excused it as Alden being Alden and Alden SF said, "those shells are so rare that people will still pay full retail for them, so they're going back on the shelves."

 

It appears that these days, defects need to be real botched shoes, shells are much darker with imperfections now appearing in black and # 8. It's disheartening. I find that I've probably paid an extra $500 this year just on returned shipping. 

 

At the same time, the Wolverine 744 that I alerted the thread to because they were on sale on ebay in all sizes for $532 from $750 arrived and they were so beautiful and well crafted. Nowadays, most Alden boots have that place with the tongue connects to the boot and it looks like it's either unfinished or poorly made ( you can see it on all the J. Crew #8 PCT Boot as the as the Black PCT shell boot from the Molded Shoe in NYC).

 

I thought that I'd vent. On a different note, I do have a Ravello Chukka an the J. Crew Ravello LWB in 9D and I got caught so, unless these super bids materialize, they'll be a couple great shoes in the market place.

 

if you have any 8.5 Barrie LWB in Whiskey or Ravello or at boots in 9D, I'd be open for a trade if they're new like mine. Mine haven't even been tried on as you guys pointed out.

 

we might have to take action. Maybe a salt march to the Alden factory:)

I completely agree with you. I kept the Ravello chukkas I ordered because I felt they are quite tough to get and I could live the mark on them, but I do not feel that it should have existed for a $700 shoe

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Originally Posted by sazon View Post

I wear my #8 Plaza boots with both dress trousers and denim/khakis. Extremely versatile last, IMO.

Humpday calls for Color4 Captoe boots (barrie last) with some happy socks. Keep pushing to Friday gentlemen.

White smoke: sazon's boots have been elected "aldens of the day".

post #45562 of 87674
New Alden x J Crew cap toe boots arrived today. Thankfully they came at the same time along with a pkg. from the Hanger Project. The 12in. Mortimer shoe horn is awesome, and the perfect length for putting on boots. The deer bone was immediately useful because the left shoe had a small scratch. Using the bone and brush the scratch disappeared as if it was never there. In a side by side comparison with my LWB's you can see that the Ravello's are longer, but that the widest part of the shoes meet in the same position. Same Barrie last but a different construction. These are my first Alden boots and will take some getting used to. Thanks to Uncle Mac for the Method. Otherwise I'd be running outside like a kid. First day on the Mac Method.
post #45563 of 87674
^so nice, I have to wait till June for mine frown.gif
post #45564 of 87674

Damn those Cap Toe Bluchers are sexy. 

post #45565 of 87674
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Originally Posted by Randomore View Post

Want some input from you guys on what you think my first Alden should be. I am having difficulty deciding.

I am leaning towards a boot. But I love the LWB as well. What do you guys think? Is there a versatile shoe that I shouldn't miss right now?

Alden for BB color 8 PTB.nod[1].gif
post #45566 of 87674
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Originally Posted by mexicutioner View Post

yeah i think the #8 barrie LWB/WTB looks most at home with casual wool pants (not smooth worsteds) or chinos. too much more casual or dressy than that (such as jeans or a business suit) and it starts to look incongruous. i think it can work with jeans, but it needs to be a pretty dress outfit. super dark jeans, no streaks or fades. no untucked shirts. preferably a sport jacket. i do that look pretty often with my #8 WTB's, but i just feel the same outfit with a less dressy-looking shoe (such as a ravello or suede WTB or a #8 PTB) would look a bit more balanced.

for background, i haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate seeing dudes wear jeans with dressy looking shoes such as black balmorals. jeans are the most workwear of pants that men can wear (aside from paint-stained overalls) so to me, the shoes worn with jeans shouldn't look dressy. like how you would never wear a tuxedo jacket with floral-print swim tunks. everything has to be from the same level of dressiness.

I don't care if others do it, but .......... I can't bring myself to wear any model of balmoral with jeans (whether shoes or boots). Personally, it just doesn't feel right, or look right. A casual balmoral is an oxymoron. Others will disagree, and I have no problem with that.
post #45567 of 87674
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Originally Posted by Gcbrown3 View Post

She's too smart for me.

The Ravello's gotta go for an actual price.

Anybody have a new 8.5. Whiskey LWB Barrie w/ leather soul?

Like somebody who posted yesterday, I've found that all of my Barrie Boots fit me perfectly in a 9, but my LWB in Barrie fit much better in an 8.5.. I've made some adjustments to many, but am just going straight 8.5 in Barrie going forward.

Alden, as a company, is just getting arrogant and dictatorial. Cordovan shortage has somehow made them able to adjust the threshold on what becomes a second as opposed to a first quality shoe.

While I'm venting, I ordered a Whiskey LWB in 9D from Alden SF. They would have completed the so called LWB rainbow. Anyway, I took them out of the box and they had the deepest scratch in the right vamp and I could tell that I was the first person who had received this pair and I pride myself iin my ability to take out even deep scratched this wasn't going anywhere.

I called Alden Massachussetts and spoke to them and they said that they'd get a new pair out to the San Fran store. A promise which seemed illusory. The Alden (MA) people, or probably better to say person, said that it must have slipped by their QC. Anyway, I call Alden San Fran to tell them this and they tell me, to make it simple, "NO." They then told me that those shoes are going back into inventory and will be sold to another consumer. This, after they admitted to having dried to take the scratch out with no luck. The shoes with tax were around $795. I called them and asked them if they could call me if an 8.5 got returned in light of this. I had been on the wait list for the scratched shoe, blah, blah, yadda, yadda. They told me that I would get the first 8.5 returned.

So yesterday, I look on the website and an 8.5 has been returned. I call the store to inquire only to be told, we're so sorry, but we sold it. I didn't give them a hard time, because it would have served no purpose. The damage was done.

anyway, the same week I received a #8 Brixton Boot from Epaulet with one of those upper bubbles where the lining isn't flush to the shell on the upper and so they get a bubble, which in time becomes either awful creasing or torn seams.

i hate to start too many sentences with "anyway", 

Anyway, Alden's quality, as a collector with 21 pairs of shell, has gone to shit. What used to be seconds get sent to retailers and even resold by Aldem themselves after a clear defect is pointed out. Epaulet excused it as Alden being Alden and Alden SF said, "those shells are so rare that people will still pay full retail for them, so they're going back on the shelves."

It appears that these days, defects need to be real botched shoes, shells are much darker with imperfections now appearing in black and # 8. It's disheartening. I find that I've probably paid an extra $500 this year just on returned shipping. 

At the same time, the Wolverine 744 that I alerted the thread to because they were on sale on ebay in all sizes for $532 from $750 arrived and they were so beautiful and well crafted. Nowadays, most Alden boots have that place with the tongue connects to the boot and it looks like it's either unfinished or poorly made ( you can see it on all the J. Crew #8 PCT Boot as the as the Black PCT shell boot from the Molded Shoe in NYC).

I thought that I'd vent. On a different note, I do have a Ravello Chukka an the J. Crew Ravello LWB in 9D and I got caught so, unless these super bids materialize, they'll be a couple great shoes in the market place.

if you have any 8.5 Barrie LWB in Whiskey or Ravello or at boots in 9D, I'd be open for a trade if they're new like mine. Mine haven't even been tried on as you guys pointed out.

we might have to take action. Maybe a salt march to the Alden factory:)

I am the first to say Alden's QC has issues - serious issues. That said, the customer service I have received at Alden SF over the years has been nothing but first-class.
post #45568 of 87674
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Originally Posted by Beatlegeuse View Post

These definitely aren't my style, but what exactly makes them bad for traveling?

don't know about you, but when i fly my feet tend to swell. therefore, i prefer shoes with laces.
post #45569 of 87674
Too many great replies to quote all, but thanks to all who responded to my query about wax for Ravello LWBs. Still unclear about difference between Saphir Renovateur and Safir neutral cordovan cream, if anyone knows. Also, any recommendations for a product to use on Leffot Blue suede LWBs? They haven't been out of box since Jan. purchase and weather's finally getting better.
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Originally Posted by Gcbrown3 View Post

 

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She's too smart for me.

 

The Ravello's gotta go for an actual price.

 

Anybody have a new 8.5. Whiskey LWB Barrie w/ leather soul?

 

Like somebody who posted yesterday, I've found that all of my Barrie Boots fit me perfectly in a 9, but my LWB in Barrie fit much better in an 8.5.. I've made some adjustments to many, but am just going straight 8.5 in Barrie going forward.

 

Alden, as a company, is just getting arrogant and dictatorial. Cordovan shortage has somehow made them able to adjust the threshold on what becomes a second as opposed to a first quality shoe.

 

While I'm venting, I ordered a Whiskey LWB in 9D from Alden SF. They would have completed the so called LWB rainbow. Anyway, I took them out of the box and they had the deepest scratch in the right vamp and I could tell that I was the first person who had received this pair and I pride myself iin my ability to take out even deep scratched this wasn't going anywhere.

 

I called Alden Massachussetts and spoke to them and they said that they'd get a new pair out to the San Fran store. A promise which seemed illusory. The Alden (MA) people, or probably better to say person, said that it must have slipped by their QC. Anyway, I call Alden San Fran to tell them this and they tell me, to make it simple, "NO." They then told me that those shoes are going back into inventory and will be sold to another consumer. This, after they admitted to having dried to take the scratch out with no luck. The shoes with tax were around $795. I called them and asked them if they could call me if an 8.5 got returned in light of this. I had been on the wait list for the scratched shoe, blah, blah, yadda, yadda. They told me that I would get the first 8.5 returned.

 

So yesterday, I look on the website and an 8.5 has been returned. I call the store to inquire only to be told, we're so sorry, but we sold it. I didn't give them a hard time, because it would have served no purpose. The damage was done.

 

anyway, the same week I received a #8 Brixton Boot from Epaulet with one of those upper bubbles where the lining isn't flush to the shell on the upper and so they get a bubble, which in time becomes either awful creasing or torn seams.

 

i hate to start too many sentences with "anyway", 

 

Anyway, Alden's quality, as a collector with 21 pairs of shell, has gone to shit. What used to be seconds get sent to retailers and even resold by Aldem themselves after a clear defect is pointed out. Epaulet excused it as Alden being Alden and Alden SF said, "those shells are so rare that people will still pay full retail for them, so they're going back on the shelves."

 

It appears that these days, defects need to be real botched shoes, shells are much darker with imperfections now appearing in black and # 8. It's disheartening. I find that I've probably paid an extra $500 this year just on returned shipping. 

 

At the same time, the Wolverine 744 that I alerted the thread to because they were on sale on ebay in all sizes for $532 from $750 arrived and they were so beautiful and well crafted. Nowadays, most Alden boots have that place with the tongue connects to the boot and it looks like it's either unfinished or poorly made ( you can see it on all the J. Crew #8 PCT Boot as the as the Black PCT shell boot from the Molded Shoe in NYC).

 

I thought that I'd vent. On a different note, I do have a Ravello Chukka an the J. Crew Ravello LWB in 9D and I got caught so, unless these super bids materialize, they'll be a couple great shoes in the market place.

 

if you have any 8.5 Barrie LWB in Whiskey or Ravello or at boots in 9D, I'd be open for a trade if they're new like mine. Mine haven't even been tried on as you guys pointed out.

 

we might have to take action. Maybe a salt march to the Alden factory:)

 

 

^ That story really irks me as well.  I've had good experiences with SF, but I don't doubt your story.  Which rep was it? or don't you want to name names?  Ridiculous that they'll admit to knowingly sending you a flawed shoe for $800 dollars, and then taking that attitude when you are unsatisfied.  I've actually gotten in to the habit of asking the rep to look at the shoes before I buy them, and if someone has already creased them or anything like that, I abort.

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Originally Posted by unclesam099 View Post


Thanks for the advice, I'll continue wearing them on carpet. I have a narrower heel and it is very loose in the larger lasts if I size down to take care of the slight difference.

Welcome, like I said, only if they are slightly tight.  If they are more than slightly tight, probably won't work out.  I have a narrow heel too. 9.5D TTS > 9C Van.

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