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Originally Posted by BeSpiffington View Post

+1 LWB & PTB
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

LWB + PTB
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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post

Lwb and ptb
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Originally Posted by hkpm View Post

PTB + NST

So if I also agree, that would be +5, right?

I personally like the NST but just like the other two better, LWB being my first choice of the three.

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Lwb + ptb = happiness
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LWB

NST

 

I am a big NST Fan.

PTB, not so much


Edited by Don L - 2/20/13 at 6:46am
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post


I agree (LWB and PTB).  NST on the Barrie doesn't look as pointy (as per SevenFTG's advice months ago).  Not sure where you are getting the Cigar NST on Aberdeen; the ones at TSM are on the barrie.

If the NST was not on the aberdeen in Alcibiades' post, my answer (PTB + LWB) might have changed.
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Originally Posted by takashi78 View Post

After reading this thread for so long i finally got myself a pair of Aldens with flexwelt.
Really comfortable.
But i only noticed the below after i got back.
I bought it at Alden SF on holiday and now am back in Asia.

The wrinkle you see in the pic is only one this part of the one shoe alone and not present anywhere else.

This is my most expensive shoe and my first GOOD pair.

1- Is this something i should be worried about?

Living in a tropical country with bad roads and wet weather unexpectedly always, there will be times where these will get wet.
2- How will these leather soles last? Its my first pair with them.
3- Any protective measures i need or should do to protect the shoe/leather sole in these climates?

The Alden store threw in a small bottle of boot cream and told me thats all i need to upkeep them. Not much of a wax n shine person, as long as the leather is clean n well conditioned i am a happy camper.

4- So will cleaning the shoe and applying the cream + brush be enough?
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Looks like growth marks in the leather.
They're not going to go away but they're only a problem if it bothers you.
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I think the Aberdeen is the perfect last for the NST shoe.

I do, however, like the Plaza on the NST Boot

 

Not sure I would like an NST shoe on Barrie?

Then I got a pair of Ravello on Barrie and really don't notice much difference.  Prefer the Aberdeen fit though.


Edited by Don L - 2/20/13 at 10:02am
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Double post.

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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

Was just perusing the MC B/S, and was surprised at the number of Alden offerings for folks between 8-10.5 over there. Some deals to be scored on the boards, gentlemen..

Could you kindly provide a link to this?

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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post


Looks like growth marks in the leather.
They're not going to go away but they're only a problem if it bothers you.


Doesnt bother me, was just wondering if it was a defect.

If its a "natural" thing then i shall leave it.

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Pleasant surprise waiting for me this morning at the office.....CXL LHS from Leather Soul.....these are honestly the most comfortable shoes I have ever put on straight out of the box.....no tightness across the vamp at all which has not been my experience with either the shell or suede versions that I have tried on in the past in the same size.

 

A question for the members though.....if there are not initially any pressure points will the leather still stretch? I am asking because they fit perfectly right now but if they were to stretch much they may end up being loose.

 

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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post

I'm hoping my baccalaureate education in all things Alden can continue. This time, I'm attempting to stave off my preoccupation about yesterday's whiskey shell LHS purchase by contemplating the purchase of a pair of chukkas. I haven't owned chukkas, but get the sense they would complement my collection, which leans more toward short- and longwing bluchers, a couple of bals, an indy boot, a shell #8 cap toe boot, some chelsea boots and a partridge in a pear tree. I have a few questions and am hoping various folks might be able to shed some light on my chukka ignorance. I'll start with general questions and try to get more specific:

First of all, what are the general indications for the wearing of a chukka boot? I recall seeing a recent post in which a dapper gentleman paired ravello chukkas nicely with a navy (IIRC) suit. He might be much cooler than I, so not sure if this is a less common example of chukka usage. I'm assuming jeans, cords and chinos are a go. Sportcoat or blazer ok? No socks? Shorts? Or would the latter be J.Crew-trying-too-hard...? Another way I'm thinking about this question in light of the recent attempt at the LHS: is there too much overlap between the LHS and chukka domains?

Next question: if chukka, then which type of chukka (yes, I know, it could be like Pokemon: gotta catch 'em all) if only restricted to one. My initial leaning is to go suede to provide a nice counterbalance to a lineup of mostly regular calf, CXL, and shell 8. I have recently bought, but have not yet found occasion to wear the J Crew LWB in snuff suede (which I am proud to report I got at a 25% discount on) due to east coast ugly weather as of late. Given the JCrew suede LWB, is a suede chukka competing for the same weather days or is it different enough formality-wise to justify getting another suede shoe?

If suede, then which one? Dark brown, medium brown or snuff? I was thinking medium, but am open to being dissuaded based on your experiences...

If not suede, do you guys ever find the shells too formal for a chukka? Why not just go with a shell blucher or bal-type shoe? Similarly, how do you guys wear your calfskin chukkas?

Another way I'm thinking about this is by addressing the issue of which last to buy. My scan of the various retailers basically revealed that there are barries, leydons and a plaza (via JGilbert IIRC). I like my barrie-lasted LWBs, but I know I tend to rely on tying the laces tighter toward the back of the shoe to prevent my ankle slipping out of my 8.5Ds. Can anyone confirm that one wouldn't have as much of this luxury in a barrie-lasted chukka given you only have two pairs of eyelets instead of 5? Does anyone suggest the Leydons because of the sleekness factor? Or do you say Leydon because you like the flex welt? Btw, how are you guys sizing the Leydon? If I'm a 9D Grant and and 8.5 Barrie, am I staying TTS for Leydon? Changing
widths?

Lined or unlined? Lastly, does anyone own a commando-soled chukka? The UnionMade shell 8 chukkas seemed interesting with the commandos, but I wasn't sure if it was too tough-looking a shoe to wear with lighter fabrics in the summer (e.g., a linen suit, lightweight summer chinos, etc).

Sorry for the long post. You guys have created a monster...

Looks as though you're moving straight to a masters. I can't add much to help you, I do not own chukkas and look at them as more of a casual shoe. I wear a suit every day. Love my LWBs and wear them casually and with sport coats, sometimes with a suit. Have not tried suede yet, again maybe a little too casual for me.
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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post

I'm hoping my baccalaureate education in all things Alden can continue. This time, I'm attempting to stave off my preoccupation about yesterday's whiskey shell LHS purchase by contemplating the purchase of a pair of chukkas. I haven't owned chukkas, but get the sense they would complement my collection, which leans more toward short- and longwing bluchers, a couple of bals, an indy boot, a shell #8 cap toe boot, some chelsea boots and a partridge in a pear tree. I have a few questions and am hoping various folks might be able to shed some light on my chukka ignorance. I'll start with general questions and try to get more specific:

 

First of all, what are the general indications for the wearing of a chukka boot? I recall seeing a recent post in which a dapper gentleman paired ravello chukkas nicely with a navy (IIRC) suit. He might be much cooler than I, so not sure if this is a less common example of chukka usage. I'm assuming jeans, cords and chinos are a go. Sportcoat or blazer ok? No socks? Shorts? Or would the latter be J.Crew-trying-too-hard...? Another way I'm thinking about this question in light of the recent attempt at the LHS: is there too much overlap between the LHS and chukka domains?

 

Next question: if chukka, then which type of chukka (yes, I know, it could be like Pokemon: gotta catch 'em all) if only restricted to one. My initial leaning is to go suede to provide a nice counterbalance to a lineup of mostly regular calf, CXL, and shell 8. I have recently bought, but have not yet found occasion to wear the J Crew LWB in snuff suede (which I am proud to report I got at a 25% discount on) due to east coast ugly weather as of late. Given the JCrew suede LWB, is a suede chukka competing for the same weather days or is it different enough formality-wise to justify getting another suede shoe?

 

If suede, then which one? Dark brown, medium brown or snuff? I was thinking medium, but am open to being dissuaded based on your experiences...

 

If not suede, do you guys ever find the shells too formal for a chukka? Why not just go with a shell blucher or bal-type shoe? Similarly, how do you guys wear your calfskin chukkas?

 

Another way I'm thinking about this is by addressing the issue of which last to buy. My scan of the various retailers basically revealed that there are barries, leydons and a plaza (via JGilbert IIRC). I like my barrie-lasted LWBs, but I know I tend to rely on tying the laces tighter toward the back of the shoe to prevent my ankle slipping out of my 8.5Ds. Can anyone confirm that one wouldn't have as much of this luxury in a barrie-lasted chukka given you only have two pairs of eyelets instead of 5? Does anyone suggest the Leydons because of the sleekness factor? Or do you say Leydon because you like the flex welt? Btw, how are you guys sizing the Leydon? If I'm a 9D Grant and and 8.5 Barrie, am I staying TTS for Leydon? Changing widths?

 

Lined or unlined? Lastly, does anyone own a commando-soled chukka? The UnionMade shell 8 chukkas seemed interesting with the commandos, but I wasn't sure if it was too tough-looking a shoe to wear with lighter fabrics in the summer (e.g., a linen suit, lightweight summer chinos, etc).

 

Sorry for the long post. You guys have created a monster...

 

If suede, Snuff (or if not, tan).  If shell, Whiskey or Ravello if you can find it.  No shorts, IMHO.

 

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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post

I'm hoping you guys can help me keep things simple. Having bought a bunch of these shoes recently, I'd like to get a kit set up to start maintaining these shoes properly from the get-go. Yes, I've done my reading on Uncle's method and have tried to wade through all gazillion pages of the official shoe care thread. I've spent a couple hours on the Hanger Project, but I'm now in system overload and trying to make sure I get the right starter kit:

 

Here's some of what I have or I'm planning to buy. Please let me know what I should add or subtract:

 

- Alden leather defender - when exactly do you use this? Some guys say pretreat all shoes with it. Other guys spritz just before going out on a cloudy day. Can I just use a spray "waterproofer" from a regular store?

 

-Saphir Renovateur. A sure thing. Question is: how many units should I buy (esp knowing my wife is going to hit me up to maintain her Frye boots as well).

 

- Alden shoe paste - do I need all 3 (i.e., tan, brown and black)? I have brown CXL indys and LWBs, a couple color 8s and hopefully, a whiskey shell LHS.

 

- is the boot paste I've seen on some sites necessary or at all different from the shoe paste?

 

- cordovan polish - some say yes, Mac seems to remind us to keep it simple and use paste wax sparingly. My instinct says just default to the Mac method...The shoe care thread guys sometimes say otherwise when it comes to shell

 

- Saphir polishes - do I need cream AND wax? or just one? (there's a line in Coming to America that McDowell says to Eddie Murphy's character as he condescendingly supervises the Prince of Zamunda's mopping of the floor- "don't use the bucket, it'll just confuse you...")

 

- renomat leather cleaner - will i need this if I start off taking care of the shoes properly and don't gunk them up with random stuff like the kiwi saddle soap I bought tons of from the grocery store last year before you guys got me on the right path

 

-suede products - all the reading I did just confused me on this one. Do I get a spray and the gommadin rubber eraser thingy?

 

-Or am I just better off leaving all this crap to a cobbler, if I can ever find one I would trust with my little darlings...

 

Thanks, as always, for your help and ideas!!

Your shells Ideally won't need wax for 6 months. At the minimum 15 wearings.  Don't use cream polish on shell.  If you take care of them properly you will never need renomat.  It is said that saddle soap should not be used on shell.

 

If you need to buy more than one jar of reno, you are probably overusing it.  Not sure about reno, but I know that the Saphir Cordovan Cream has a 5 year shelf life, so no use stocking up.

 

I would be reluctant to use regular store water-proofer on my shell, but maybe it will be fine.  Not a risk I'm willing to take.

 

You should get a suede protectant for your suede shoes and treat before you wear em outside.

 

You just need one or the other Wax/Cordovan cream, not both, but I have acquired both.  Bought the saphir in every color and then received complimentary aldex wax with subsequent purchases.  (yes, get the appropriate color for each)

 

Your instinct is correct.  Stick to the method.  Get some good horse hair brushes.  One for each color, however, you can use the same one for all, up until you apply wax.  I say one for each to avoid cross contamination of different colored wax.  YOu can get some daubers (applicators) while you are at it, although not as essential as the brushes.

 

There was some discussion in the past 4 weeks about good places to buy brushes.  Check my post history if you have trouble finding it because I know I threw in $.02.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Gents... Pick 2 of 3

- Cigar LWB (Barrie)
- Cigar PTB (Barrie)
- Cigar NST (Aberdeen)

PTB LWB

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Originally Posted by ATLVol View Post

Pleasant surprise waiting for me this morning at the office.....CXL LHS from Leather Soul.....these are honestly the most comfortable shoes I have ever put on straight out of the box.....no tightness across the vamp at all which has not been my experience with either the shell or suede versions that I have tried on in the past in the same size.

A question for the members though.....if there are not initially any pressure points will the leather still stretch? I am asking because they fit perfectly right now but if they were to stretch much they may end up being loose.


Awesome loafer! However the CXL is a little prone to stretching. All of my CXL shoes do. So mybe be conststant with you socks. If you sport them with wooly socks this time of year, they may be a little sloppy if you decide to go sockless come summer. $0.02
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Originally Posted by Don L View Post

I think the Aberdeen is the perfect last for the NST shoe.
I do, however, like the Plaza on the NST Boot

Not sure I would like an NST shoe on Barrie?

The NST on the Barrie is decent, IMO.

Alden should put the NST shoe (and many others) on the Plaza and call it good. smile.gif

The Plaza for the NST boot (frankly, for any boot) is my first choice hands down. I have Plaza lasted boots in NST, plaintoe, captoe, and WT.
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Originally Posted by Don L View Post

I think the Aberdeen is the perfect last for the NST shoe.
I do, however, like the Plaza on the NST Boot
I disagree, but it's a matter of opinion/personal style choice of course. If I saw a pair of NSTs on the aberdeen in the wild, I'd surely think they looked great.
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Originally Posted by Don L View Post

Not sure I would like an NST shoe on Barrie?
It's been said before, but the issue some have with the NST shoe is that it's a casual style (split toe blucher) with a formal (flat 270 degree) welt, and on a formal last if it's on the aberdeen. I happen to agree, and think the NST is better as a boot.
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