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post #43126 of 94706
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


I have probably 60% AE brushes and 40% bought thru the above website (the "executive" brushes). I have found the quality to be comparable. The folks at shoecaresupplies are very nice to deal with. Their shine cloths are decent too.

Thanks for the tip on the executive.  Going to order some now.

post #43127 of 94706
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Speaking of brushes, I need to find my suede brush  .  .  .

Phi, digging your new compositions. Shoes are pretty nice, too.
post #43128 of 94706
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

As others have said, this is pretty fixable with Reno and/or some kind of paste wax (Alden, Kiwi, Saphir, etc).

As for your general point, I have scuffed my Ralph Lauren cordovan Marlows in a similar vein. Scuffing seems to be an issue with cordovan generally, not just Alden shoes.

Cordovan is very tough and durable in the sense that it lasts a long time, it develops a patina with wear and tends to shine up very easily. However, if you value uniformity in a shoe, or get upset with things like creases or scuffs, cordovan in general may cause you more grief than its worth. The leather itself seems to be more vulnerable to this type of stuff. The top English shoemakers prefer to work in calfskin for a reason.

The fact of the matter is that regardless of the scuff, your cigar plain toes will still look better than 99% of footwear and when shined well will attract significant positive attention. By all means take care of your shoes and care for their appearance, but to get the most enjoyment out of Alden you will have to let some of this stuff go

Quoted for awesomeness. The third paragraph is one of the better comments I've ever read about cordovan's pros and cons
post #43129 of 94706
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Originally Posted by jereth View Post

First good snow review of 403's. Slippage is not too bad, much worse than lugs though. Wet feet, going to get some snoseal.

Neocork is useless in snow/ice.
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

I agree, shell is rather fragile in the sense that it isn't hard to make a permanent indentation in it, compared to calf.  Maybe if you get the shoes refinished the scuff will be resolved?

 

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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

I have to disagree about shell. I think it is a tough and durable material. I purchased these boots in 2010 and have never ever babied them. Today they are caked with salt from walking in snow. With the recent resoles, they are like Monster Truck Indy's. biggrin.gif

 

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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post


I'm sorry to hear about your dilemma. I scuff my shell from time to time, it is upsetting but fixable. I use saphir Reno, this will fix 90% of my problems. I will also use a bit of brown or tan kiwi only on the affected area. Some will recommend only brushing, but Reno and a hair of kiwi will get you there much faster. (I have never used a deer bone)

 

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Originally Posted by sazon View Post


+1. This has fixed many a scuff for me

 

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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


Saphir Reno and some Saphir shell cordovan cream (which comes in burgundy, dark brown, black, and neutral) will also typically do the trick.

 

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Originally Posted by CalceoAdamator View Post

I don't know if this will help with your scuff mark, but Saphir has a cream that is specially made for cordovan. You can find it here: http://www.hangerproject.com/closet/saphir-cordovan-shoe-polish.html#.URV1zhG9KSM

 

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post


As others have said, this is pretty fixable with Reno and/or some kind of paste wax (Alden, Kiwi, Saphir, etc).

As for your general point, I have scuffed my Ralph Lauren cordovan Marlows in a similar vein. Scuffing seems to be an issue with cordovan generally, not just Alden shoes.

Cordovan is very tough and durable in the sense that it lasts a long time, it develops a patina with wear and tends to shine up very easily. However, if you value uniformity in a shoe, or get upset with things like creases or scuffs, cordovan in general may cause you more grief than its worth. The leather itself seems to be more vulnerable to this type of stuff. The top English shoemakers prefer to work in calfskin for a reason.

The fact of the matter is that regardless of the scuff, your cigar plain toes will still look better than 99% of footwear and when shined well will attract significant positive attention. By all means take care of your shoes and care for their appearance, but to get the most enjoyment out of Alden you will have to let some of this stuff go

 

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Originally Posted by OfficeLinebacke View Post

Thanks for the tip on the executive.  Going to order some now.

 

 

 

Thanks everyone for the feedback and recommendations. The pictures I posted where taken after some Reno and Alden polish treatment (post scuff and deer bone) but I think I'll order some of the Saphir polish and try that. If anyone has used both the Alden and Saphir polishes and can comment on if they've seen a difference, I'd appreciate it. Thanks again for all your comments.

 

Alcibiades, big thanks for your super helpful post. Up until now I didn't realize that permanent variation due to scuffs is normal and should be expected with cordovan. This explains a lot and will help me to not stress about scuffs in the future. Good to know that it won't effect the longevity of the cordovan. Thanks for the education.

post #43131 of 94706
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Thanks everyone for the feedback and recommendations. The pictures I posted where taken after some Reno and Alden polish treatment (post scuff and deer bone) but I think I'll order some of the Saphir polish and try that. If anyone has used both the Alden and Saphir polishes and can comment on if they've seen a difference, I'd appreciate it. Thanks again for all your comments.

Alcibiades, big thanks for your super helpful post. Up until now I didn't realize that permanent variation due to scuffs is normal and should be expected with cordovan. This explains a lot and will help me to not stress about scuffs in the future. Good to know that it won't effect the longevity of the cordovan. Thanks for the education.

I have used Alden paste wax and Saphir cordovan cream. I still use both. The Saphir will provide more moisture. Depending on your shade of cigar, the Saphir may darken it slightly (a feature of the Saphir I actually like as it gives the brown shell a richer color IMO). I have every color of Alden's paste wax and every color of Saphir. Both are good products.
post #43132 of 94706
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

I have used Alden paste wax and Saphir cordovan cream. I still use both. The Saphir will provide more moisture. Depending on your shade of cigar, the Saphir may darken it slightly (a feature of the Saphir I actually like as it gives the brown shell a richer color IMO). I have every color of Alden's paste wax and every color of Saphir. Both are good products.

This is good to know, inasmuch I've only ever used Reno on my cordovan. Thank you for the information -

There's a Saphir Neutral Cordo creme, correct? Would prefer to just buy one to cover Cigar and #8...
post #43133 of 94706
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

This is good to know, inasmuch I've only ever used Reno on my cordovan. Thank you for the information -

There's a Saphir Neutral Cordo creme, correct? Would prefer to just buy one to cover Cigar and #8...

Yes there is a neutral. I have used it on cigar and 8 when I didn't want to infuse any color into the shell. Just recently used it on my color 8 WT boots.
post #43134 of 94706
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Yes there is a neutral. I have used it on cigar and 8 when I didn't want to infuse any color into the shell. Just recently used it on my color 8 WT boots.

I wonder if anyone has ever compared these to the Saphir wax pastes. My understanding is Saphir is beeswax. I have numerous containers of each but do not see anything on the Aldens to suggest the root. Seven - do you have anything on this?
post #43135 of 94706
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

I have used Alden paste wax and Saphir cordovan cream. I still use both. The Saphir will provide more moisture. Depending on your shade of cigar, the Saphir may darken it slightly (a feature of the Saphir I actually like as it gives the brown shell a richer color IMO). I have every color of Alden's paste wax and every color of Saphir. Both are good products.

Thanks very much. Your posts are always very helpful.
post #43136 of 94706
J.Crew ravello LWB for a night on the town with the wife.



post #43137 of 94706
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

Sorry if this is a dumb question... I notice light and dark colored horse hair brushes. Does the color of the bristles matter? i.e. am I supposed to be using the light brush on certain colors and the dark on certain colors? Or does it not matter?

nephew,

it does not matter
post #43138 of 94706

Anyone here in the forum use below process to protect new shell shoes?  The below is pulled from the Alden of Carmel site.

 

 

"Recently, a good customer of Alden shoes offered these care tips for brand new shell cordovan shoes, in order to help protect the leather from water and other elements.

Using a fine cloth, apply a very thin layer of paste wax (not cream) on the shoes.  Rub this paste wax in very carefully for about 5 minutes.  Wait 1/2 hour and repeat process.  Then wait another 1/2 hour, and repeat process a third time.

After this, dip the same fine cloth in water, and rub thoroughly in a cicrular motion until the shine begins to appear.  (The cloth should not be really wet.  The cloth should just be dipped in water for a very short time, so that the cloth is damp.)  But if you rub thoroughly you should see a very thin film of water on the leather for a short time.

When dry, brush with a soft horse hair brush, then polish with a soft cloth."

post #43139 of 94706
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Originally Posted by dslonghorn4 View Post

J.Crew ravello LWB for a night on the town with the wife.




nephew,

looking good in your gunboats
post #43140 of 94706
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Originally Posted by Roguls View Post


Phi, digging your new compositions. Shoes are pretty nice, too.

 

Thank you, sir!

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