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Perhaps this is to be expected, and the reason why the final step of the Mac Method is buffing?

Yep - buffing should always be the final step, and that is regardless of type of brush used, or whether or not one is used at all.
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

You are welcome. Wore my whiskey chukkas tonight ......

Whiskey chukkkas, sigh.

 

Provided the Barrie last works for me the Ravello will be my 6th pair of shell chukka's. All different colors leaving out only cigar and whiskey. Using my cigar 744's and C&J for RL to compare cigar to my existing colors it would make sense to fill in the color gap for my 7th and what I'm thinking will be my final pair of shell chukka's with cigar. But that whiskey is so beautiful..... In the end I suspect it will depend on availability more than anything else.

 

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Very nice. Which ones are those?

Is it silly of me to order the Leffot Naval boot (black perf toe) when I have both the #8 and Cigar Grant Captoes from Alden of DC? Something about a simple dress boot does it for me and I can get away with them at work on the Friday.

 

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Originally Posted by Calikid View Post

You can never have too many captoe boots!

I like that answer! And sevenfoldtieguy gave a correct answer too IMO. If it turns out the Barrie last works for me, and they are still available I will likely order it. Cold Iron is a Naval Engineering term that means the Engineering plant is shutdown and hotel services are being received from the pier. And your back home instead of deployed half way around the world 80% or more of the time. The Leffot Naval boots are very close to the real thing which is called an Engineers boot or on Aircraft Carriers flight deck boots, mine are 30 years old now. For the last 10 years since I retired from the Navy only break them out when I use the chain saw because they have steel toes. Those Alden x Leffot Naval boots really need to be in my collection, just because. Plus they are captoe boots...

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I have to disagree about shell. I think it is a tough and durable material. I purchased these boots in 2010 and have never ever babied them. Today they are caked with salt from walking in snow. With the recent resoles, they are like Monster Truck Indy's. biggrin.gif

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In response to Wardrobe guy and cordovan scuffs.

 

 

When you say the scuff is from caring, what did you do to care for them? I've used Saphir Reno is extremely small quantities and had stain and build up that looed similar. I've also used deer bones to cause scratches.
 
it might sound crazy, but when I get those scuffs. I usually, wipe down the whole with a damp cloth (make sure to do it quickly as you don't want water stains. Then I'll use the tiniest bit of Reno. Then I'll use the deer bone, or even better, a shaping bone, because of it's small tip and ability to be used on small spots, and I pull the leather from the right to the left on the right side of the scratch or blemish and then from left to right on the left side of the blemish. Then I'll due the same thing from the top to the bottom if the blemish and from the bottom to the top. This will cause the oils to be released and the shell to pull together. I was told that Cordovan scuffs are like deep human cuts. The need to be pulled together slowly over time and with the right methods they'll heal like a cut with a band aid.
 
Then, make sure that your fingers are not calloused and bound to scratch, use your thumb  or index finger to do the same thing that you did with the deer bone, pulling the cordovan and oils back over the scuff, almost every scuff or scratch or blemish that I've gotten has gone away using these techniques.. Sometimes it doesn't happen overnight and you need to let the cordovan heal and repeat over a period of days. Do not try to fix a scratch or blemish in one sitting if it proves less successful than you may have thought. Over working the cordovan in one sitting can cause people to make things worse.
 
If you use a shaping bone, you can use the pointed end to make a series of lines (I hate to use scratches) parallel lines. They'll look like incredibly light scratching; and they'll pull the oil out and make the cordovan easier to manipulate. So make however many parallel lines in the cordovan with the ends of the shaping bone. Then use your finger to go back and forth perpendicular to these lines created by the pointed side of the shaping bone. The shaping bone will pull out the oils and your finger will spread them over the oils over blemish.then do the sand thing going the other way. Next, use your thumb of index finger to pull the cordovan over the blemish. You can. Also just go up and down or in a circling motion. Eventually, within hours or days; almost all scuffs and blemishes should go away. PM me if you're having continual problems. I'm
happy to walk you through it.
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I tried to post my method of getting rid of scratches and scuffs. I hope it helps some of you guys. I have 16 pairs of cordovan, 11 are Alden. I've, just about never, had a scratch or blemish where this method does not work. You need to be more careful with the lighter shades, but the method will still work. Sorry if I'm breaking the rules by giving advice as a "nephew," but I have uncle experience; just not Uncle thread participation.

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Speaking of brushes, I need to find my suede brush  .  .  .

+1 on the Navy suede. What are the pants?
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Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe View Post

I know I won't get much sympathy here but needed to vent.


I'm sorry to hear about your dilemma. I scuff my shell from time to time, it is upsetting but fixable. I use saphir Reno, this will fix 90% of my problems. I will also use a bit of brown or tan kiwi only on the affected area. Some will recommend only brushing, but Reno and a hair of kiwi will get you there much faster. (I have never used a deer bone)
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I'm sorry to hear about your dilemma. I scuff my shell from time to time, it is upsetting but fixable. I use saphir Reno, this will fix 90% of my problems. I will also use a bit of brown or tan kiwi only on the affected area. Some will recommend only brushing, but Reno and a hair of kiwi will get you there much faster. (I have never used a deer bone)

+1. This has fixed many a scuff for me
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Originally Posted by REguy View Post

AE brushes are junk, IMO. Check these guys out. Awesome brushes at a fantastic price...

http://www.shoecaresupplies.com/Shoe_Brushes_s/24.htm

Agree. Those brushes do a much better job. My AE brushes seem they are not dense enough to do a good job.
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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post

I'm sorry to hear about your dilemma. I scuff my shell from time to time, it is upsetting but fixable. I use saphir Reno, this will fix 90% of my problems. I will also use a bit of brown or tan kiwi only on the affected area. Some will recommend only brushing, but Reno and a hair of kiwi will get you there much faster. (I have never used a deer bone)

Saphir Reno and some Saphir shell cordovan cream (which comes in burgundy, dark brown, black, and neutral) will also typically do the trick.
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Originally Posted by CalceoAdamator View Post

Hello everyone... glad to join your thread as a new member... and Alden enthusiast...

Welcome.  

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Originally Posted by lagsun View Post


+1 on the Navy suede. What are the pants?

 

Uniqlo, slim chinos.

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First good snow review of 403's. Slippage is not too bad, much worse than lugs though. Wet feet, going to get some snoseal.
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I don't know if this will help with your scuff mark, but Saphir has a cream that is specially made for cordovan. You can find it here: http://www.hangerproject.com/closet/saphir-cordovan-shoe-polish.html#.URV1zhG9KSM
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Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe View Post

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I know I won't get much sympathy here but needed to vent. I have a modest shell collection, but of the 5 pairs I own I've had issues now with 4. Yesterday I scuffed my cigar plain toes. Not a big deal, I know that's going to happen. Today I woke up and began working on them, but after using a deer bone (lightly) and brushing, a second area which resembled the scuff appeared. See pictures below. The scuff on the left was caused by wearing and the circular one on the right from caring for the shoes.

I know that shell is thought of as a tough leather and I would never deny its aesthetic appeal, but I have found it to be anything but resilient. And I should say that I have been firmly planted on the side that babies shell, despite its reputation for being a tough material. The only pair with which I have not had an issue is a color 8 LWB floor model from 2002 that I picked up last year. I love that shoe. The leather feels thicker than my other shells and has never had any issues. I'm not holding Alden solely responsible for Horween's material, which may or may not have been better several years ago. But I do hold Alden responsible for the quality and longevity of their product.

I'm also about to send back a pair of kudu boots which now have speed hooks that have rotated and trim stitching that has come undone. At best I can accept this as natural wear, even though I've owned them for less than a year and only wear then 2-3 times per month. Still, my Wolverine Addisons have never had any issues and have had at least 5 times the wear. Definitely not as comfortable as my Aldens but at I'm not dealing with customer service on a boot that's half the price.

Anyway, it currently looks like my shell run is over unless Alden steps up on the cigar plain toes and can somehow fix them. I feel my expectations for quality are aligned with the price of these shoes. I may try a another pair of non shell in the future but for now it looks like there's more shell for you guys.




As others have said, this is pretty fixable with Reno and/or some kind of paste wax (Alden, Kiwi, Saphir, etc).

As for your general point, I have scuffed my Ralph Lauren cordovan Marlows in a similar vein. Scuffing seems to be an issue with cordovan generally, not just Alden shoes.

Cordovan is very tough and durable in the sense that it lasts a long time, it develops a patina with wear and tends to shine up very easily. However, if you value uniformity in a shoe, or get upset with things like creases or scuffs, cordovan in general may cause you more grief than its worth. The leather itself seems to be more vulnerable to this type of stuff. The top English shoemakers prefer to work in calfskin for a reason.

The fact of the matter is that regardless of the scuff, your cigar plain toes will still look better than 99% of footwear and when shined well will attract significant positive attention. By all means take care of your shoes and care for their appearance, but to get the most enjoyment out of Alden you will have to let some of this stuff go
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