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Originally Posted by 100 yrs View Post

^ i like including the decimal point for 8.0

has anyone had any issue adding a topy to a double waterloc sole? wondering about the oil in the leather causing an issue with the adhesive. i'm gonna need to do something, i almost busted my tail today on slick marble after walking on the wet sidewalk

On this topic, what is the purported benefit of the double waterlock sole? I have a few (CXL chukka, whiskey Indy), but I find they don't seem to offer any advantages on wet pavement. I've seen retailers say that the sole lasts longer because the oil protects them from water, but Alden's regular double leather soles last a long time as well. I understand the advantage of the single flex welt oiled sole (found in suede chukkas, loafers, etc) - the oil makes the sole softer, which makes a more comfortable shoe out of the box (and goes well with styles like suede loafers or chukkas where the user may go sockless). But I haven't been able to find a real advantage of the double waterlock.

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post


On this topic, what is the purported benefit of the double waterlock sole? I have a few (CXL chukka, whiskey Indy), but I find they don't seem to offer any advantages on wet pavement. I've seen retailers say that the sole lasts longer because the oil protects them from water, but Alden's regular double leather soles last a long time as well. I understand the advantage of the single flex welt oiled sole (found in suede chukkas, loafers, etc) - the oil makes the sole softer, which makes a more comfortable shoe out of the box (and goes well with styles like suede loafers or chukkas where the user may go sockless). But I haven't been able to find a real advantage of the double waterlock.

 

I don't own any, but I thought that ^ was it.  The oil prevents the leather from absorbing the water so that the sole doesn't become soft when wet and wear down more quickly.  Are you saying that it still absorbs the water and becomes soft and wears down quickly on wet pavement?

post #41808 of 87917
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Today I am wearing my black shell monochromatic saddles (model 993) - Barrie last, no storm welt, 270 degree welt. One of my most comfortable pairs, and considerably sleeker than most Barrie lasted models. But, in fairness, they are being worn for business dress.

http://aldenshop.com/Store/DrawProducts.aspx?CategoryID=48&ParentID=94&PageID=&Action=

I have not given the monochromatic shell saddle much thought, but lately it's been growing on me.
post #41809 of 87917
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

I don't own any, but I thought that ^ was it.  The oil prevents the leather from absorbing the water so that the sole doesn't become soft when wet and wear down more quickly.  Are you saying that it still absorbs the water and becomes soft and wears down quickly on wet pavement?

From what I can tell, Alden's double leather soles and double waterlock soles wear down at about the same rate - both wear down very slowly. I haven't noticed an advantage of the double waterlock sole, but maybe I am missing something
post #41810 of 87917
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


I have no objection to this method. However, I do wonder if any on this thread have used this method and then returned the shoes/boots because they deemed the fit improper. If so, was the return allowed?

If a retailer has a no-crease policy, there is no way they would take them back. And even for the retailers that do not have a no-crease policy, this seems like quite a stretch (a full 3 hours of walking).

I have always wondered this myself. Please share if you have experience with this.

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Originally Posted by Don L View Post

Whiskey LWB's today

 

are these j.crew?

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does anyone have any experience with Montana Pitch Blend? I just bought some for my Indy's, but now I'm seeing that they may darken the color. I have the 403s, which are dark to begin with, so I think it should be alright, but if anyone has used this before, please share.

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Feels good posting in here 3 days running.

AppleMark

Epaulet Gunmetal Canvas RCs
Gap (Socks)
Shoemart Cigar LWB.

Rained a bit today so I'll have some waterspots to brush out over the next while.
post #41814 of 87917
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Originally Posted by violethour1951 View Post

Ravello SWBs, Barrie last



Great shot. Looks great with wear.

I have a new pair in 9.5D that may hit the B&S forum soon.
post #41815 of 87917
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Originally Posted by hokie3000 View Post

does anyone have any experience with Montana Pitch Blend? I just bought some for my Indy's, but now I'm seeing that they may darken the color. I have the 403s, which are dark to begin with, so I think it should be alright, but if anyone has used this before, please share.

I use them on my leather/CXL Indy boots.It is a very good water protectorant / conditioner, but doesn't do that much for shine.
post #41816 of 87917
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Originally Posted by hokie3000 View Post

does anyone have any experience with Montana Pitch Blend? I just bought some for my Indy's, but now I'm seeing that they may darken the color. I have the 403s, which are dark to begin with, so I think it should be alright, but if anyone has used this before, please share.

i used it on my brown CXL wingtips from LS. i like it. works well for waterproofing. any darkening was minor and basically imperceptible after a few days.
post #41817 of 87917
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Originally Posted by hokie3000 View Post

does anyone have any experience with Montana Pitch Blend? I just bought some for my Indy's, but now I'm seeing that they may darken the color. I have the 403s, which are dark to begin with, so I think it should be alright, but if anyone has used this before, please share.

 

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post


I use them on my leather/CXL Indy boots.It is a very good water protectorant / conditioner, but doesn't do that much for shine.

 

I use it on my Wolverine Addisons and it works well. I agree that it doesn't shine up but for those boots I'd prefer it not to. 

post #41818 of 87917
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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

RE: Mac method indoors (lost my quote in the response)

I agree, I can determine fit better on a hard surface better than thick, plush carpet. However as I'm sure you know, The idea of carpet is to ensure that you can return the item as new. I tend to use "carpet" and "indoors" interchangeably.

nephew,
right on
post #41819 of 87917
I'm looking for recommendations in picking one (sadly one as I know both are awesome) NST shoe between color #8 and cigar. Which in your eyes looks better or is more versatile?
I do have a bordeauex vass shell similar I guess to #8 but dont have a #8 as such and I have heard ithey are different. I plan to wear them as as s semiformal dress shoe.[/quote]

nephew,
recommend go for #8 nst
post #41820 of 87917
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

I'm wearing the cigar NST as I type. Picked it with the idea that the #8 is easier to find on a moments notice. My thought is that #8 is more formal as a darker color and with the dark welt and sole edge. Will be interested to see what others think.


nephew,
looking good in your cigar
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