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post #40846 of 87608
^I think we also have to consider the pricing on shell these days. It's pretty expensive, even for #8/black. Considering Alden's current popularity, these non-shell models likely go a long way to meeting the demand with slightly less sticker shock.

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post #40847 of 87608
You know what the Leathersoul sale for Alden, makes me understand...now more than ever, what a freaking markup there is on these shoes.. How you cann all of a sudden sell $515.00 shoes for $195.00. So it cost maybe $75.00 to $100.00 to make the shoes. maybe $150.00 if cordovan.
post #40848 of 87608
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I was curious as to what navy cxl looks like... it's quite nice as a moc (from Oak St Bootmakers):

 

 

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I own this exact boot and love it

post #40849 of 87608
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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

You know what the Leathersoul sale for Alden, makes me understand...now more than ever, what a freaking markup there is on these shoes.. How you cann all of a sudden sell $515.00 shoes for $195.00. So it cost maybe $75.00 to $100.00 to make the shoes. maybe $150.00 if cordovan.

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post #40850 of 87608
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

^I think we also have to consider the pricing on shell these days. It's pretty expensive, even for #8/black. Considering Alden's current popularity, these non-shell models likely go a long way to meeting the demand with slightly less sticker shock.

You want sticker shock, you should have seen my face when Anatomica quoted me a price for a Modified last make up in shell. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

You know what the Leathersoul sale for Alden, makes me understand...now more than ever, what a freaking markup there is on these shoes.. How you cann all of a sudden sell $515.00 shoes for $195.00. So it cost maybe $75.00 to $100.00 to make the shoes. maybe $150.00 if cordovan.

I'm sure the dealer cost is higher than that, probably ~$250-$260

post #40851 of 87608
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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

You know what the Leathersoul sale for Alden, makes me understand...now more than ever, what a freaking markup there is on these shoes.. How you cann all of a sudden sell $515.00 shoes for $195.00. So it cost maybe $75.00 to $100.00 to make the shoes. maybe $150.00 if cordovan.

i've always heard general rule of thumb for markup is 2.5x, but i'm sure there's plenty of mba's that read this thread who could expound upon the point further.
post #40852 of 87608
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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

You know what the Leathersoul sale for Alden, makes me understand...now more than ever, what a freaking markup there is on these shoes.. How you cann all of a sudden sell $515.00 shoes for $195.00. So it cost maybe $75.00 to $100.00 to make the shoes. maybe $150.00 if cordovan.

That's true. No other products that we know and love on SF every go to 60% off.
post #40853 of 87608

sorry what was the leathersoul sale like? Must have missed it somewhere in the past few hundred pages haha

post #40854 of 87608
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If you're 11.5 Barrie, Shoe Mart had three pair of the J Crew #8 cap boot on the seconds shelf today...looked good. Also a beautiful chromexcel wingtip blucher, and a #8 plain toe on the Modified. Ask for Bob.

Forgot to mention a unique black shell Indy on leather sole in size 10....snag 'em!
post #40855 of 87608
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Originally Posted by 100 yrs View Post


i've always heard general rule of thumb for markup is 2.5x, but i'm sure there's plenty of mba's that read this thread who could expound upon the point further.

Not an MBA (yet...) but it varies on the industry.  My guess would have been that the retailers profit is 30%, but that is just my guess.  I'm sure there are some circumstances where markup is 2.5x. 

 

I think you also have to consider two other factors.

 

Price as determined by market forces (supply/demand)

 

Cost of production (Cost of inputs, labor, economies of scale and synergies)

 

I always thought a shell model cost the retailer somewhere around $400 (give or take), but again, just a guess.

post #40856 of 87608
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Originally Posted by fitchottie View Post

You know what the Leathersoul sale for Alden, makes me understand...now more than ever, what a freaking markup there is on these shoes.. How you cann all of a sudden sell $515.00 shoes for $195.00. So it cost maybe $75.00 to $100.00 to make the shoes. maybe $150.00 if cordovan.

wait... what sale? I'm not seeing anything on their blog and just reread the last few pages of this thread. There's a sale on now?

 

Edit: Any details about what's on sale would be great. 

post #40857 of 87608
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Originally Posted by 100 yrs View Post


i've always heard general rule of thumb for markup is 2.5x, but i'm sure there's plenty of mba's that read this thread who could expound upon the point further.

 

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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Not an MBA (yet...) but it varies on the industry.  My guess would have been that the retailers profit is 30%, but that is just my guess.  I'm sure there are some circumstances where markup is 2.5x. 

 

I think you also have to consider two other factors.

 

Price as determined by market forces (supply/demand)

 

Cost of production (Cost of inputs, labor, economies of scale and synergies)

 

I always thought a shell model cost the retailer somewhere around $400 (give or take), but again, just a guess.

 

 

I think it depends on the merchandise sector.  For lower volume durables, I usually see the dealer discount at 40-60%.  On clothing items (shirts/pants/etc) the mark-ups can go to astronomical levels.

post #40858 of 87608
Here is the list from LS they might have more than this available.  This list was based on my shoe size.  Hope this helps.
 
This is a sale on select Alden shoes in large sizes 10D~12D.
 
Snuff Suede Slipon Chukka Boot(Copley last) 11D: $250
Loden Green Comfort Indy Boot(Trubalance last) 10D: $295
Cognac Soft Calf NST Blucher(Barrie last) 10.5D: $295
Oiled Nubuck Pitt Boot(Barrie last) 10E, 10.5C: $295
Tan Suede Tassel Loafer(Plaza last) 10.5D, 11D: $250
Dark Brown Suede Semi Brogue Oxford(Plaza last) 10.5D, 11D: $250
Black Cordovan Gore Slipon(Copley last) 11D: $395
#8 Dark Burgundy Cordovan Chukka Boot(Plaza last) 11D: $395
Burgundy Calf Attorney Shoe(Plaza last) 10.5D: $250
Tan Suede Plain Toe Oxford(Plaza last) 10.5D, 11D: $195
Madison Semi Brogue Blucher(Barrie last) 10.5D: $195
Snuff Suede Plain toe Blucher(Barrie last) 10.5D: $250
post #40859 of 87608
Yeah, LS-sale was really unadvertised (walk in only). Call them for a listing of things in your size (although it is only bigger sizes in general)
post #40860 of 87608

It was posted in the LS Shop Talk blog.

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