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post #39766 of 51413
12/23/12 at 10:58pm
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Originally Posted by hkpm View Post

Hey guys I would like to know are there any differences, in terms of fitting and feel when walking, between the ptb and chukka? Should I buy them in different size?
Let's say they are both shell and in barrie last.
Your input is appreciated.

I have many of each. Both are good options.

Buy the same size for each model (since it is Barrie, go 1/2 size down from TTS).

The PTB will fit slightly more snug.
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post #39767 of 51413
12/23/12 at 11:09pm
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Do either of you recommend the plaza last in non-boot offerings?  I'm considering a straight tip bal and a medallion toe blucher both on the plaza last from J Gilbert. Thanks...

I have calf shoes, shell shoes, and shell boots on the Plaza last. I like said last.

JGilbert is great. Indeed, on Sunday I decided to pull the trigger on the color 8 plaintoe high boots on the Plaza (commando sole) - I got the last one in my size. This will complete my trifecta of color 8 high boots on the Plaza from JGilbert (NST, Wing Tip, Plaintoe) - I wanted a plaintoe with commando. I am now mulling over what to do with my color 8 chukkas (Barrie last, double leather sole) - keep or sell????
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post #39768 of 51413
12/24/12 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

I have many of each. Both are good options.
Buy the same size for each model (since it is Barrie, go 1/2 size down from TTS).
The PTB will fit slightly more snug.

Avoid 1/2 down forum-logic if you have a wide-ish forefoot. Barrie is a voluminous last, but not that much so

Thanks for compliments, gents.
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post #39769 of 51413
12/24/12 at 8:21am
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Avoid 1/2 down forum-logic if you have a wide-ish forefoot. Barrie is a voluminous last, but not that much so
Thanks for compliments, gents.

The Barrie is more voluminous and longer than TTS. In some printed Alden literature, one will see a recommendation to go down one width only. This too can work; however, numerous Alden models/make-ups are only available in D width, so going from a D to a C is a practical impossibility. I have never heard (or even heard of) a retailer recommend(ing) going TTS for Barrie, but, hell, if it works, go for it.
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post #39770 of 51413
12/24/12 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

The Barrie is more voluminous and longer than TTS. In some printed Alden literature, one will see a recommendation to go down one width only. This too can work; however, numerous Alden models/make-ups are only available in D width, so going from a D to a C is a practical impossibility. I have never heard (or even heard of) a retailer recommend(ing) going TTS for Barrie, but, hell, if it works, go for it.
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post #39771 of 51413
12/24/12 at 9:02am
I find the J. Crew #8 captoe on the Barrie to be very narrow relative to a LWB in the same size.
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post #39772 of 51413
12/24/12 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by Roguls View Post

Avoid 1/2 down forum-logic if you have a wide-ish forefoot. Barrie is a voluminous last, but not that much so
Thanks for compliments, gents.

If you have a wide-ish forefoot, your TTS size in Barrie would likely have an E width... So if you are TTS 10E, sizing down to 9.5E in Barrie tends to work really well. However, if an E width is not available, then it is best to stick with a 10D

From what I can tell, retailers are starting to order more E widths, which is a good trend for guys with wider feet
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post #39773 of 51413
12/24/12 at 9:46am
I suppose it all depends on the individual. These different lasts are certainly a double edged sword. It's confusing, or can be, and maybe difficult to find your correct size, but the options are nice once you do.

In Allen Edmonds, I have some that are 10D and some 10E.

With Alden, I'm 10D in the Hampton last and 9.5D in the Barrie. I think the LWBs are the most comfortable shoes I own.
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post #39774 of 51413
12/24/12 at 9:56am
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

I have calf shoes, shell shoes, and shell boots on the Plaza last. I like said last.
JGilbert is great. Indeed, on Sunday I decided to pull the trigger on the color 8 plaintoe high boots on the Plaza (commando sole) - I got the last one in my size. This will complete my trifecta of color 8 high boots on the Plaza from JGilbert (NST, Wing Tip, Plaintoe) - I wanted a plaintoe with commando. I am now mulling over what to do with my color 8 chukkas (Barrie last, double leather sole) - keep or sell????

Sevenfold,

Quetion for you - I agree with the concept that PTBs run a touch smaller than other Barrie lasted shells. Do you think this follows for the Chukka which is kind of a PT? Very curious because I want the chukka but really only get a good fit with the PTB on Barrie.
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post #39775 of 51413
12/24/12 at 9:57am
I found the same thing with the Unionmade Captoe. The barrie seemed to run much narrower than in my PTB.
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post #39776 of 51413
12/24/12 at 10:05am

i dunno PTB and captoes in barrie fit the same

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post #39777 of 51413
12/24/12 at 10:13am

Is there a Allen edmonds or Florsheims last that match the barrie last for a size comparison? 

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post #39778 of 51413
12/24/12 at 10:23am
Maybe it is because the Unionmade makeup is a boot? I don't know other than to say I feel a definite difference in how they fit. I don't know how else to explain it.
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post #39779 of 51413
12/24/12 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by afixedpoint View Post

Anybody stay TTS for the J. Crew #8 boot? I have a pair in 9D, but it runs quite narrow, so I might order another pair in 9.5D

 

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I did. I have a few other pairs of shell on the barrie, all bluchers, and all a half size down. I initially ordered the J. Crew 8 boot in the same size as my bluchers and they were tight. I then ordered my true size to compare the two and the latter fit much better. I returned the first order and have been happy with the true to size fit half way through the break-in method.

 

 

I'm an 11D on the brannock with a slightly high volume foot. 10.5D on most barrie shoes works great but I had to go up to 11D on the J. Crew cap toe boot. Glad I had the opportunity to buy in store and try on both as I would have likely gone 1/2 size down if I ordered online.

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post #39780 of 51413
12/24/12 at 10:43am
How do aldens soles hold up on a motorcycle? or should i look at red wings or LL bean
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