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NICE.
Edited by dotcomzzz - 12/18/12 at 11:34pm
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anyone knows which US store that ships Alden internationally? thanks.


Edited by musica22 - 12/19/12 at 1:56am
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anyone knows which US store that ships Alden internationally? thanks.

 

I'm pretty sure most of the Alden stores ship internationally. Third parties tend to be the ones that don't.

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I'm pretty sure most of the Alden stores ship internationally. Third parties tend to be the ones that don't.

aldenshop charges $135 a pair for shippingfacepalm.gif

besides they only carry standard indycry.gif

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Disagree on both counts. Alden is quality, shell or calf.

 

I think the #8 Shell LWB might be the perfect platform for Shell

 

I only have Whiskey Shell LWB's and I love them and look forward to the aging/patina process to make them even better.

 

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Wow, Mario has just insulted a great deal of people that follow this thread.  But that's okay.  Tis the season to look beyond our differences, no matter how great.  In the spirit of reaching out beyond my gunboat collection, below is my newest  shell addition.  Not the sexiest piece, but a solid go-to staple in my wardrobe...

 

9901 (Black shell PTB)

 

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I would split the difference.  Agree with you on the first as I enjoy calf Aldens as well as their shell.  But on the second, I have to agree with Mario --- the plainer the shoe/boot, the more shell cordovan's unique attributes are appreciated.  But of course, this is all subjective.

 

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The last paragraph = curious, and seemingly unprovoked.

 

Internet is terrible at conveying tone, and I can be terse, so for that I apologize. Adding the "IMO" was my futile attempt at showcasing my personal beliefs are far from any objective fact.

 

It's been discussed in this thread how other makers (C&J, Carmina, et al.) have equal or better quality at a lower price-point when it comes to calf. I did not mean to disparage the fact that Alden's in calf are certainly a step-up from say, a comparable Allen Edmonds, and are still a high-quality, American-made shoe. My only point was from a value-proposition sense, I personally believe the calf offerings miss the mark with prices approaching and exceeding $500, and I don't believe I am alone on this.

 

BootSpell's sentiment echoes my own; I buy shell shoes to showcase the shell/material.

 

I personally feel that adding the requisite brouging and ornamentation of a LWB detracts from the shell, and is harder to distinguish from a well-polished calf equivalent. The most obvious indicator of shell v. calf is in the rolls vs. creases, respectively, which is less pronounced in a shortened-vamp LWB.

 

Perhaps it was my thinly veiled prejudice against LWB's coming through, but I understand their role in a wardrobe and place in classic-Americana.

 

Those Ravellos are indeed pretty ReppTiePrepster !

 

That said, I appreciate the civility of this thread and posters.


I wasn't actually insulted. I do understand where you're coming from, but disagree. I think most enthusiasts could easily tell the difference between a well polished, calf LWB and a well brushed and cared-for shell LWB, just as easily as a PTB comparison. While some may disagree with the appeal of shell, for me it's not the pronounced rolls one finds with chukkas.  I prefer the more subtle yet distinctive shell creasing.  I've seen some posts that suggest the really pronounced "beef rolls" one might find with chukkas are a product of poor sizing.

 

Also, I maybe wrong but I thought the similar calf offerings from C&J are (significantly) more expensive than Alden's calf.  With Carmina's calf, I don't think you can find them cheaper than similar Alden models.  But in both cases, you are correct as far as quality is concerned (that's why you're paying more).  My first two Alden purchases were in calf and I wish I had gone straight to shell.  I like my Alden calf, but I'm not sure they are priced appropriately at about $475-500 a piece.   But I suppose if people buy them at that price, the market appropriately prices them.

 

Thanks for your time and happy holidays...

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Hey so I finally started my collection. I bought a pair of LWB #8 to start but I have examined them at home and it doesn't feel right. I took a few photos maybe you guys can tell me if I am being OCD or not.
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1. There is a small scratch in the instep of the left shoe.
2. Some discoloration on the inside of the heels
3. There is a large bump or bend on the inner side of the left shoe.

I imagine some polish might get the scratch out but what about that bump on the side? Could I fix that or is it just easier to exchange for another pair?
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Shell might not be for you. Alden will drive you crazy if these items bother you.
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Hey so I finally started my collection. I bought a pair of LWB #8 to start but I have examined them at home and it doesn't feel right. I took a few photos maybe you guys can tell me if I am being OCD or not.

1. There is a small scratch in the instep of the left shoe.
2. Some discoloration on the inside of the heels
3. There is a large bump or bend on the inner side of the left shoe.

I imagine some polish might get the scratch out but what about that bump on the side? Could I fix that or is it just easier to exchange for another pair? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Small scratches on cordovan shoes are common; bumps are less common, but do happen. Color 8 longwings are common enough that you can probably exchange them for another pair if you wish in the size you bought. However, on rarer cordovan makeups, it will be less likely that you will be able to find a flawless pair. As mentioned before, these issues are common enough that if they bother you significantly, you will simply enjoy Alden less.
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Whiskey shell chukkas today
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whiskey cap toe bals today, their debut.

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Wow, with all of this talk about beef rolls and other attractions to the Alden line, I feel out of the loop here!laugh.gif I simply like them because they fit well and look good! The really big deal is that they last a long time, looking better with age! 

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I prefer the more subtle yet distinctive shell creasing.  I've seen some posts that suggest the really pronounced "beef rolls" one might find with chukkas are a product of poor sizing.


The roll issue is funny... My shoes with the most rolling (chukkas) get the most complements...
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Question: I just received my Indys from J.Crew and I noticed the stitching was undone in one area. Was wondering is this acceptable or will present a problem once I start wearing them? See the pic below.

 

Call j.crew and explain the problem. They will definitely just ship you out a replacement pair and comp the return shipping.

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whiskey cap toe bals today, their debut.

Whiskey bal wingtips after 7 or so wears:
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I wasn't actually insulted. I do understand where you're coming from, but disagree. I think most enthusiasts could easily tell the difference between a well polished, calf LWB and a well brushed and cared-for shell LWB, just as easily as a PTB comparison. While some may disagree with the appeal of shell, for me it's not the pronounced rolls one finds with chukkas.
  I prefer the more subtle yet distinctive shell creasing.  I've seen some posts that suggest the really pronounced "beef rolls" one might find with chukkas are a product of poor sizing.
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Also, I maybe wrong but I thought the similar calf offerings from C&J are (significantly) more expensive than Alden's calf.  With Carmina's calf, I don't think you can find them cheaper than similar Alden models.  But in both cases, you are correct as far as quality is concerned (that's why you're paying more).  My first two Alden purchases were in calf and I wish I had gone straight to shell.  I like my Alden calf, but I'm not sure they are priced appropriately at about $475-500 a piece.   But I suppose if people buy them at that price, the market appropriately prices them.

Thanks for your time and happy holidays...

It seems rare to see pictures of chukkas without significant rolls, at least compared to their equivalent in a shoe, the PTB. Yes, I have seen pictures of PTBs with significant rolls, but typically they seem less severe than on chukkas. Are chukkas on the barrie a little looser in the vamp than most barrie lasted shoes? I'm sure this has been discussed before.
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It seems rare to see pictures of chukkas without significant rolls, at least compared to their equivalent in a shoe, the PTB. Yes, I have seen pictures of PTBs with significant rolls, but typically they seem less severe than on chukkas. Are chukkas on the barrie a little looser in the vamp than most barrie lasted shoes? I'm sure this has been discussed before.

I think it is more of matter of how the bend at the end of the vamp interacts with the rest of the front of shoe - the structure lends itself to more pronounced creasing when the shoes are made of cordovan. It also has to do with the characteristics of whatever piece of cordovan leather they use for the shoe. This is of course less of an issue with calf, suede or chromexcel. I don't think sizing is that much of an issue - my whiskey chukkas are 10D and my cigar are 9.5E, both have creasing.

The creasing (when the shoes are maintained with Mac method) tend to create more attention grabbing variations of shine, which makes them look attractive to a lot of wearers and onlookers. Others can't stand them. It's personal preference
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