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My j.crew #8 captoe boots are scheduled to come tomorrow, and i'm seeking advise on how to "set the crease" in a vamp area. I really, really dislike excessive rippling and remember reading somewhere about using a pencil to help "guide" the formation of the initial creases so they are somewhat symmetrical. Here's a description of the method i nabbed from another forum:

 

 

 

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"The "pencil method" as described by Tom is for setting the crease straight when the shell shoes are new. Basically you put the pencil (or pen) where you want the shoes to crease and flex your feet. This way you get symmetric creases on both feet. Obviously, this works better if someone else holds the pen it for you when you are standing up - but you can try it yourself too."

 

 

So, has anyone used this with success? Any tips or other suggestions? TIA

 

Edit: Here's a link with more details from Tom at LS: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?95476-Alden-Chukka-ideal-crease-Japanese-Pen-Method

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My j.crew #8 captoe boots are scheduled to come tomorrow, and i'm seeking advise on how to "set the crease" in a vamp area. I really, really dislike excessive rippling and remember reading somewhere about using a pencil to help "guide" the formation of the initial creases so they are somewhat symmetrical. Here's a description of the method i nabbed from another forum:





So, has anyone used this with success? Any tips or other suggestions? TIA

honestly i didn't have any creasing issues on my J. Crew captoes... if anything, I feel like the cap depth is perfect to wear you won't experience weird creasing.

i am getting my ravello LWB for Alden SF tomorrow... seems like this week is going to be acquisition heavy for this thread.
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Yes. I am completely sure it is from the sun. There are "tan lines" under where the tassels have rested on the shoes. I don't know if you can see them in this picture they haven't photographed well.

I picked up a pair of BB color 8 LHS that had this (they were the display model and I got them for a song). I've been leaving the less-affected one in front of a window and they are evening out, though the process is slow. I've also done a little more conditioning and even added some colored corodvan cream to the lighter shoe. They're not perfect, but I like the effect and the faded color...they've become a nice shade of brown that's not available from Alden as new.
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honestly i didn't have any creasing issues on my J. Crew captoes... if anything, I feel like the cap depth is perfect to wear you won't experience weird creasing.
i am getting my ravello LWB for Alden SF tomorrow... seems like this week is going to be acquisition heavy for this thread.

Agreed. The JCrew cap toe has its creases in an unlined part, which means they are very soft. I wouldn't worry about this model creasing like I would a lined chukka, for example.
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Agreed. The JCrew cap toe has its creases in an unlined part, which means they are very soft. I wouldn't worry about this model creasing like I would a lined chukka, for example.
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honestly i didn't have any creasing issues on my J. Crew captoes... if anything, I feel like the cap depth is perfect to wear you won't experience weird creasing.
i am getting my ravello LWB for Alden SF tomorrow... seems like this week is going to be acquisition heavy for this thread.

 

Cool, thanks. I sold a pair of cigar chukkas in fear that the creases were going to become too extreme, so i'm glad to hear the captoes aren't as prone to this issue. 

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I've tried to find information about the Alden #8 perforated cap toe blucher (without medallion tip). It is allegedly style # 2132. Can someone tell me if it is on the Aberdeen last? Thank you for whatever help[ you can provide!
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I could see that too, however, the arch (which didn't see sun) and the spots under the tassel as well speak to the shoe being exposed to the sun. Years ago, I almost purchased a pair of heavily discounted NSTs and then, as the mate was being pulled from the store window, I noticed they were no longer the same color. In that case, the shoe had been on display for years and the one left in the sun was now brown.
I tend to agreei with your conclusion about restoration from Alden. The discoloration is minimal and I believe it can be remedied by a recraft.
Here is a great piece on how the sun affects SC.
http://leffot.com/2011/08/31/the-brownout-by-nick-horween/

I fully realize the sun can cause discoloration/fading, and, if your shoes have evidence that is the case, then it appears the case is closed.

However, some time ago I purchased a new pair of color 8 LWBs (first quality) and the left and right shoes were so different in color (they took to the dye differently), I sent them back. How they got past QC is a different issue altogether ...

In any event, good luck.
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My ranger moc collection. Sometimes they're called moc toe.




Ranger Moc in loden green, van last, water lock sole

Ranger Moc in reverse chamois, van last, water lock sole

Ranger Moc in snuff suede, barrie last, plantation crepe sole
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Are you sure the faded one is from the sun? (not sure what else it could be, though)  I would think there would be some kind of tan line under the tassel or lace.

It seems to me this could quite easily be the result of two shoes taking to dye quite differently.

No matter what it is, if an Alden restoration will remedy it, I personally would go that route and be done with it.


I've seen Alden shells that have been on store display for months (or even years) that have lightened/changed color from indoor/display lighting and absent from sunlight. It isn't necessarily sunlight.

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I fully realize the sun can cause discoloration/fading, and, if your shoes have evidence that is the case, then it appears the case is closed.
However, some time ago I purchased a new pair of color 8 LWBs (first quality) and the left and right shoes were so different in color (they took to the dye differently), I sent them back. How they got past QC is a different issue altogether ...
In any event, good luck.

Thanks, Seven. Understood. When I received the shoes there was a film of dirt and dust on the one --leads me to believe they were in a shop window (road/sidewalk dust) instead of a shop floor. Also, the sole of the right shoe is darker than the left (without wear) leading me to believe it has oxidized. Anyway, I bought a pair of color 8 tassel loafers in June of '93 and they had much more of brown hue to them as opposed to today's Corlor 8s which have the eggplant hue to them. Back then, Alden recomended that you use Kiwi dark tan shoe polish on shell corodvan shoes. After a while they all had a brown hue to them. Would be cool to have that with these.
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Travelling with 20+ pairs of shoes, declared overweight, per SF rule ditch AE first, i did that and weights goes down to normal limit. No Alden left behind
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I've seen Alden shells that have been on store display for months (or even years) that have lightened/changed color from indoor/display lighting and absent from sunlight. It isn't necessarily sunlight.

Repp you could be right - but see my post above. Either way, I think it is from natural or artifical light.
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Travelling with 20+ pairs of shoes, declared overweight, per SF rule ditch AE first, i did that and weights goes down to normal limit. No Alden left behind

 

Holy cow!  How long will you be gone?

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Holy cow!  How long will you be gone?

I'm curious how many pair of shoes everyone travels with for different length trips. My trips are usually only 2-3 days and I try to only have the dress shoes on my feet and a pair of Vibrams for working out.
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Repp you could be right - but see my post above. Either way, I think it is from natural or artifical light.

Artificial light can definitely fade shell, albeit at a slower pace.
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