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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

^ were they shell?

Good question, Namor. Eleganza, these are shell and would be curious if just polishing them with color 8 polish would work as well. I have sent a note to Alden to see what they think about recrafting the color. I know Alden treat their Shell at the factory and would think that likely the most secure route--but the sun bleaching is enticing.

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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Guys,
I purchased these tassels about a week ago. I got a very good deal on them and now I understand why. One of the shoes must have been in a store window and it has faded from the sunlight--see picture below. I was thinking that I could deal with this in one of two ways. First, send the shoes back to Alden and pay for them to recraft the color on the lightened shoe - no biggy. Second idea I had was to put the unfaded shoe in the sun for a while and bleach it out like the other one. My understanding from Nick Horween's blog posts and others is that this could be done in a short period of time. On the one hand, the lightened tassels would be cool and unique - I already have a pair of color 8 tassels. On the other, I haven't done anything like this before and it may be more difficult to match than it sounds. Curious as to your thoughts?

Would Neat's Foot Oil darken the lighter one?
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Guys,
I purchased these tassels about a week ago. I got a very good deal on them and now I understand why. One of the shoes must have been in a store window and it has faded from the sunlight--see picture below. I was thinking that I could deal with this in one of two ways. First, send the shoes back to Alden and pay for them to recraft the color on the lightened shoe - no biggy. Second idea I had was to put the unfaded shoe in the sun for a while and bleach it out like the other one. My understanding from Nick Horween's blog posts and others is that this could be done in a short period of time. On the one hand, the lightened tassels would be cool and unique - I already have a pair of color 8 tassels. On the other, I haven't done anything like this before and it may be more difficult to match than it sounds. Curious as to your thoughts?

Leave the darker shoe near a window that has a decent amount of sunlight & that shoe will fade over time. You can always have an Alden restoration done to them if you don't like the results.
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LS #8 NST Saddle on the Leydon, my favorite Alden last.
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Are you sure the faded one is from the sun? (not sure what else it could be, though)  I would think there would be some kind of tan line under the tassel or lace.

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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Are you sure the faded one is from the sun? (not sure what else it could be, though)  I would think there would be some kind of tan line under the tassel or lace.

It seems to me this could quite easily be the result of two shoes taking to dye quite differently.

No matter what it is, if an Alden restoration will remedy it, I personally would go that route and be done with it.
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LS #8 NST Saddle on the Leydon, my favorite Alden last.

I have little love for the Leydon last, but that is a nice shoe. nod[1].gif
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^ I regret not buying that pair. Hopefully LS will run it again.
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Are you sure the faded one is from the sun? (not sure what else it could be, though)  I would think there would be some kind of tan line under the tassel or lace.

Yes. I am completely sure it is from the sun. There are "tan lines" under where the tassels have rested on the shoes. I don't know if you can see them in this picture they haven't photographed well.

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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

It seems to me this could quite easily be the result of two shoes taking to dye quite differently.
No matter what it is, if an Alden restoration will remedy it, I personally would go that route and be done with it.

I could see that too, however, the arch (which didn't see sun) and the spots under the tassel as well speak to the shoe being exposed to the sun. Years ago, I almost purchased a pair of heavily discounted NSTs and then, as the mate was being pulled from the store window, I noticed they were no longer the same color. In that case, the shoe had been on display for years and the one left in the sun was now brown.

I tend to agreei with your conclusion about restoration from Alden. The discoloration is minimal and I believe it can be remedied by a recraft.

Here is a great piece on how the sun affects SC.

http://leffot.com/2011/08/31/the-brownout-by-nick-horween/
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My j.crew #8 captoe boots are scheduled to come tomorrow, and i'm seeking advise on how to "set the crease" in a vamp area. I really, really dislike excessive rippling and remember reading somewhere about using a pencil to help "guide" the formation of the initial creases so they are somewhat symmetrical. Here's a description of the method i nabbed from another forum:

 

 

 

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"The "pencil method" as described by Tom is for setting the crease straight when the shell shoes are new. Basically you put the pencil (or pen) where you want the shoes to crease and flex your feet. This way you get symmetric creases on both feet. Obviously, this works better if someone else holds the pen it for you when you are standing up - but you can try it yourself too."

 

 

So, has anyone used this with success? Any tips or other suggestions? TIA

 

Edit: Here's a link with more details from Tom at LS: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?95476-Alden-Chukka-ideal-crease-Japanese-Pen-Method

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Originally Posted by Coopa View Post

My j.crew #8 captoe boots are scheduled to come tomorrow, and i'm seeking advise on how to "set the crease" in a vamp area. I really, really dislike excessive rippling and remember reading somewhere about using a pencil to help "guide" the formation of the initial creases so they are somewhat symmetrical. Here's a description of the method i nabbed from another forum:





So, has anyone used this with success? Any tips or other suggestions? TIA

honestly i didn't have any creasing issues on my J. Crew captoes... if anything, I feel like the cap depth is perfect to wear you won't experience weird creasing.

i am getting my ravello LWB for Alden SF tomorrow... seems like this week is going to be acquisition heavy for this thread.
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Yes. I am completely sure it is from the sun. There are "tan lines" under where the tassels have rested on the shoes. I don't know if you can see them in this picture they haven't photographed well.

I picked up a pair of BB color 8 LHS that had this (they were the display model and I got them for a song). I've been leaving the less-affected one in front of a window and they are evening out, though the process is slow. I've also done a little more conditioning and even added some colored corodvan cream to the lighter shoe. They're not perfect, but I like the effect and the faded color...they've become a nice shade of brown that's not available from Alden as new.
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

honestly i didn't have any creasing issues on my J. Crew captoes... if anything, I feel like the cap depth is perfect to wear you won't experience weird creasing.
i am getting my ravello LWB for Alden SF tomorrow... seems like this week is going to be acquisition heavy for this thread.

Agreed. The JCrew cap toe has its creases in an unlined part, which means they are very soft. I wouldn't worry about this model creasing like I would a lined chukka, for example.
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Agreed. The JCrew cap toe has its creases in an unlined part, which means they are very soft. I wouldn't worry about this model creasing like I would a lined chukka, for example.
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honestly i didn't have any creasing issues on my J. Crew captoes... if anything, I feel like the cap depth is perfect to wear you won't experience weird creasing.
i am getting my ravello LWB for Alden SF tomorrow... seems like this week is going to be acquisition heavy for this thread.

 

Cool, thanks. I sold a pair of cigar chukkas in fear that the creases were going to become too extreme, so i'm glad to hear the captoes aren't as prone to this issue. 

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