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post #38116 of 79343
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Originally Posted by thebeebs View Post

Never mind, I figured out what a Kirkwood boot is.  Can't say I'm a fan - a cap toe together with a commando sole is very confused looking to me.  Sleek and rugged at the same time.  This is why I returned my Cigar cap toes from Alden DC.  It's trying to be too many things at once.

Only as confused as a captoe derby in my eyes.
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

An argument can also be made that a WT boot is dressier than a captoe boot - but WT boots many times come on a commando sole.


Really? In what sense? I always thought captoes were dressier than wingtips if they were both derbys. On the other hand if the wingtip was an oxford it might be a different story

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post #38117 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Badandy View Post

Was considering ordering either the Indy (made for J Crew or through Alden SF) or a plain toe Alden boot. Any SF consensus on this? I haven't yet seen them in person so I'm interested in people's opinions on what I admit is a preference matter. Would I be nuts to get one over the other? I'm not doing any outdoors work, just want a great looking boot I can wear with chinos/jeans and that will look great after some wear.

I'd recommend the Indy in chromexcel. The chromexcel Indy looks unique (moc toe stitching stands out), the leather wears well and takes a nice sheen, and the boot is versatile (it can deal with a lot of weather conditions and looks good with both jeans and chinos in a variety of casula settings).
post #38118 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

If you ask most of the people here they don't know why they purchase shell corodvan either. Sure we all come up with "reasons" - or execuses. That said, as Uncle Mac says, it is an addiction not easily understood. If you purchase one pair you will be done --think long and hard before you do there is no turning back. I sold all of my shell shoes and am now in the process of rebuilding my collection because I can't quit it.

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Do I really need another cordovan captoe boot puzzled.gif

The discussion from earlier today being played out right in front of our eyes... satisfied.gif
post #38119 of 79343
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Originally Posted by johnnyrich7 View Post

That pic makes them look similar to the color of the #4 boots recently posted:

Ravello can range anywhere from looking like slightly darker/redder whiskey to slightly ligher color 4. It seems to vary the most out of all the Alden cordovan colors
post #38120 of 79343
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

this one:
ravello captoe
approx. 6 inch boot
commando sole
speedhooks at top
barrie last

Big win, minus Barrie. Can't wait for pics.
post #38121 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

I'd recommend the Indy in chromexcel. The chromexcel Indy looks unique (moc toe stitching stands out), the leather wears well and takes a nice sheen, and the boot is versatile (it can deal with a lot of weather conditions and looks good with both jeans and chinos in a variety of casula settings).

Am I the only one who prefers the original leather?

I am over CXL.
post #38122 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Ravello can range anywhere from looking light slightly darker/redder whiskey to slightly ligher color 4. It seems to vary the most out of all the Alden cordovan colors

I agree and have experienced it personally. I own 3 different ravello shoes (lhs, ptb, and lwb) and each is a different shade.
post #38123 of 79343
Okay, those Ravellos, with a dark sole, are impressive. I wish Alden made more shoes, because I'd love a version of those on a better last.
post #38124 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Roguls View Post

Am I the only one who prefers the original leather?
I am over CXL.

+1. I own the cxl version, but stopped by an Alden stockist over the weekend who had the Indy in the original leather on display and it looked fantastic.
post #38125 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Roguls View Post

Am I the only one who prefers the original leather?
I am over CXL.

It's funny, I actually own the original leather version (on a commando sole) and like it a lot - but I think chromexcel is good place to start for people getting into Aldens. Can't go wrong with either.
post #38126 of 79343
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Originally Posted by REguy View Post

Someone go get that last pair of 10s!

Request granted. Hard to resist dark soled ravello. Chukkas are likely going back to The Shoe Mart.
post #38127 of 79343
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Originally Posted by Winston S. View Post

Only as confused as a captoe derby in my eyes.
Really? In what sense? I always thought captoes were dressier than wingtips if they were both derbys. On the other hand if the wingtip was an oxford it might be a different story

With respect to blucher style shoes, I generally speaking would agree with you; and of course a plain toe being considered even more formal (no ornamentation).

However, I see it differently for blucher boots, as do many others.

Keep in mind my discussion is limited to blucher style boots: if a captoe is necessarily dressier than a WT (due to more broguing on the WT, etc.), then it follows that a plaintoe is necessarily dressier than a captoe (due to zero ornamentation). Yet a plaintoe boot is almost universally considered the most casual (particularly if on a wider last like the Barrie) - hence, the chukka style, and many other plaintoe boot styles. So, with blucher boots, IMO, the "formal" continuum from plain toe to captoe to WT simply doesn't work - and, indeed, might just be turned on its head altogether. Some may disagree. I have no problem with that.
post #38128 of 79343
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Originally Posted by johnnyrich7 View Post

I agree and have experienced it personally. I own 3 different ravello shoes (lhs, ptb, and lwb) and each is a different shade.

Speaking the truth.
post #38129 of 79343
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

With respect to blucher style shoes, I generally speaking would agree with you; and of course a plain toe being considered even more formal (no ornamentation).
However, I see it differently for blucher boots, as do many others.
Keep in mind my discussion is limited to blucher style boots: if a captoe is necessarily dressier than a WT (due to more broguing on the WT, etc.), then it follows that a plaintoe is necessarily dressier than a captoe (due to zero ornamentation). Yet a plaintoe boot is almost universally considered the most casual (particularly if on a wider last like the Barrie) - hence, the chukka style, and many other plaintoe boot styles. So, with blucher boots, IMO, the "formal" continuum from plain toe to captoe to WT simply doesn't work - and, indeed, might just be turned on its head altogether. Some may disagree. I have no problem with that.

I've never thought about it like that, but it makes sense.
post #38130 of 79343

other than commando sole, any major difference between these kirkwoods and the daytrippers from leffot that shipped a couple weeks ago? wondering if I need both pair 

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